[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Wasn't left wing politics created from a reaction to social and political injustice!

Wasn't that basing their beliefs on the opposite beliefs of others!

Pushing too far one way tends to lead to a reaction the other way - a metophorical tug of war.

What beliefs did these far-right people have before their reactionary switch? I'm very interested in this, seems bizarre. Do you know any of these people?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

What beliefs did these far-right people have before their reactionary switch? I'm very interested in this, seems bizarre. Do you know any of these people?

A different one to those of the far left. I know many people whose views vary from left to right, but not many on either extreme I am pleased to say. Does that satisfy your inquisive mind?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

A different one to those of the far left. I know many people whose views vary from left to right, but not many on either extreme I am pleased to say. Does that satisfy your inquisive mind?

Hmm, no, not really.. i wanted to know more about the individuals who changed their political beliefs soley on the opposing beliefs of others
You claimed there was lots, so many in fact, that the left are entirely responsible for the far-right prominence, but now youre telling me you dont personally know any?
How do you know about them then? Is there an article about these people that neither of us personally know?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Hmm, no, not really.. i wanted to know more about the individuals who changed their political beliefs soley on the opposing beliefs of others
You claimed there was lots, so many in fact, that the left are entirely responsible for the far-right prominence, but now youre telling me you dont personally know any?
How do you know about them then? Is there an article about these people that neither of us personally know?

I base my comments on a mixture of my own opinions and people I know with similar views, generally centre and left to right leaning, and what I read and see and hear around me, just like most people. Those generally pretty sick of PC and its increasingly controlling views.

Have no time for those on either end of the spectrum.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I base my comments on a mixture of my own opinions and people I know with similar views, generally centre and left to right leaning, and what I read and see and hear around me, just like most people. Those generally pretty sick of PC and its increasingly controlling views.

Have no time for those on either end of the spectrum.

yeh, i dont think i have much time for those on either end either, but just to clear things up

Originally Posted by Brillopad

too much PC and the radical left are responsible for an increase in far-right support.

You don't know any of these people personally, nor do you have any source that acknowledges their existence?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

yeh, i dont think i have much time for those on either end either, but just to clear things up



You don't know any of these people personally, nor do you have any source that acknowledges their existence?

So you don't believe that BRexit and Trump were at least in part a protest vote. I believe the votes spoke volumes as do many.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

So you don't believe that BRexit and Trump were at least in part a protest vote. I believe the votes spoke volumes as do many.

I dont think a protest vote is always anti-left, people vote for the loony party too. Thats probably where your argument is confused, i getchya now.

It is a bit weird you would call Trump and Brexit far right though.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Withano

What beliefs did these far-right people have before their reactionary switch? I'm very interested in this, seems bizarre. Do you know any of these people?

You are being deliberately daft because i know you understand what Brillo is saying because i know you are pretty smart from your posts and you know what she is saying is true.

There obviously was always support for far right parties but not on the scale it is now and it is growing.
People with more generally centrist and centre right persuasions are turning to people like Le Pen because the current politicians are not addressing their concerns and are handling the refugee crisis and immigration terribly.
They see no alternative.Not to mention the growing EU scepticism accross Europe.
There are places accross mainland Europe which really are 'no go zones'.Worse than anything we have here fortunately for now.
There is a fair bit of desperation involved for many citizens who are experiencing the effects every day.