[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They will have their referendum just not while the Brexit deal is going through like selfish Nicola wants, they are out of the EU for the foreseeable whether they have a referendum or not as it will take time to get back in that is if the EU will take them. Let's be real this isn't about the EU for Scotland either it just an opportunity to have another referendum,keep asking the question you will get the answer you want in the end.

I don't care about Sturgeon's motives, she's a toad.

I just think that Scotland has the grounds to demand another referendum as does NI if they want to rejoin Ireland or go it alone. Like I said before, if they decide to stay then they face the carnage with the rest of us but we can't force them to stay by denying a referendum. We could very well be forcing their hand if we make them wait.

Scotland wouldn't leave if there was another Ref now. It would be better to do the vote ASAP and get it out the way then allow the embitterment and resentment to grow and cause Scotland to break away when we're in a sensitive position post brexit.

Better to go through Brexit knowing that we stand united.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Scotland wouldn't leave if there was another Ref now. It would be better to do the vote ASAP and get it out the way.

I sort of agree but then, on the other hand, this was Camerosborne's exact thinking with the Brexit referendum . That's why there was no plan for it and its all such a colossal mess. They were absolutely positive that it wouldn't be "leave" so they called it to get it out of the way and move on... Wups. We know how that turned out.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I don't care about Sturgeon's motives, she's a toad.

I just think that Scotland has the grounds to demand another referendum as does NI if they want to rejoin Ireland or go it alone. Like I said before, if they decide to stay then they face the carnage with the rest of us but we can't force them to stay by denying a referendum. We could very well be forcing their hand if we make them wait.

Scotland wouldn't leave if there was another Ref now. It would be better to do the vote ASAP and get it out the way then allow the embitterment and resentment to grow and cause Scotland to break away when we're in a sensitive position post brexit.

Better to go through Brexit knowing that we stand united.

That's a good point I guess, the problem is the getting the timing right so it doesn't distract from the Brexit Deal or No Deal