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Old 05-04-2017, 11:55 PM #1
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What Livingstone said wasn't anti-anything but because Labour have (unfairly and unnecessarily) been called anti-Semitic in recent years, the press, the Right and that includes Right of Labour quickly picked up on Livingstones use of words.

Zionism is a political ideology that continues to be contested within and beyond Jewish communities. As with any political ideology, it is entirely legitimate for non-Jews as well as Jews to express positive or negative opinions about it. Not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jews. Many strident supporters of Zionism today in Britain and America are right wing Christian fundamentalists who include antiSemites.

Support for Zionism does not imply support for Jews, or for anti-racist attitudes. http://www.jewishsocialist.org.uk/ne...abarti-inquiry.

So beside what Chief Rabbi Ephraim Mirvis and Tom Watson proclaim, "Zionism", whatever way we look at it, is not an integral part of Judaism. Many false, distorted charges of antiSemitism have been used as ammunition to damage the Labour Party, in particular, Corbyn, and also to undermine and gag free speech by Labour Party members on the Israel/Palestine conflict.
It all seems to go back to political correctness destroying free speech...;abour abused it by calling anyone and everyone racist for discussing immigration or radical islamic terrorism and they also labelled everyone sexist if they didnt agree with everyone peddled by radical feminsits...now the tories are using political correctness to accuse labour of racism....both imo are using and abusing the evil that is political correctness in a totally underhand way to label and slander their opponents.
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It all seems to go back to political correctness destroying free speech...;abour abused it by calling anyone and everyone racist for discussing immigration or radical islamic terrorism and they also labelled everyone sexist if they didnt agree with everyone peddled by radical feminsits...now the tories are using political correctness to accuse labour of racism....both imo are using and abusing the evil that is political correctness in a totally underhand way to label and slander their opponents.
We all use the same yard stick but some of us will twist that stick until it no longer resembles a ruler.

Ken Livingstone shouldn't of opened his mouth and said anything about Zionism because he's fully aware of the consequences that have rained down on the Labour Government in recent months.
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We all use the same yard stick but some of us will twist that stick until it no longer resembles a ruler.

Ken Livingstone shouldn't of opened his mouth and said anything about Zionism because he's fully aware of the consequences that have rained down on the Labour Government in recent months.
We don't have a Labour government.
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We don't have a Labour government.
freudian slip of the tongue!
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