[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Why are you so desperate for everyone to live in fear? Is it just because you do? A "misery loves company" sort of deal?

So this doesn't tell me anything about the subject being discussed. Are you saying you support Corbyn's roll over and not defend yourself kind of stance or some other?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jaxie

So this doesn't tell me anything about the subject being discussed. Are you saying you support Corbyn's roll over and not defend yourself kind of stance or some other?

Dropping bombs will make it worse. Communication wont solve it easily but it is the ONLY way. It's not even just my opinion that going to "war on terror" and dropping bombs will make it worse. It's not that people are "too scared of them to do it". We have already ****ing tried it and made things worse. Don't they say that one of the definitions of insanity is doing the same things repeatedly, and expecting different results?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Dropping bombs will make it worse. Communication wont solve it easily but it is the ONLY way. It's not even just my opinion that going to "war on terror" and dropping bombs will make it worse. It's not that people are "too scared of them to do it". We have already ****ing tried it and made things worse. Don't they say that one of the definitions of insanity is doing the same things repeatedly, and expecting different results?

This all makes far more sense to me too.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Dropping bombs will make it worse. Communication wont solve it easily but it is the ONLY way. It's not even just my opinion that going to "war on terror" and dropping bombs will make it worse. It's not that people are "too scared of them to do it". We have already ****ing tried it and made things worse. Don't they say that one of the definitions of insanity is doing the same things repeatedly, and expecting different results?

You cannot communicate with some people - they don't want to listen. They have proved that many times. So we can only do something once except when it comes to communication. That was tried and when it failed action was taken.

The terrorists who repeatedly carry out attacks certainly seem to be putting the fear of god into some who simply want to appease them with actions synonymous with being seen to be doing/saying the right thing in order to prevent terrorism. Let's appease the terrorists at all costs - they might attack us if we Don't.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

You cannot communicate with some people - they don't want to listen. They have proved that many times. So we can only do something once except when it comes to communication. That was tried and when it failed action was taken.

The terrorists who repeatedly carry out attacks certainly seem to be putting the fear of god into some who simply want to appease them with actions synonymous with being seen to be doing/saying the right thing in order to prevent terrorism. Let's appease the terrorists at all costs - they might attack us if we Don't.

So what? We go to war and create a whole new generation of terrorists. And then we look back and say "Wups! Guess we shouldn't have gone to war because now we have loads more terrorists!", and then 5 years later we do it again?

We did the "War On Terror" under Bush and Blair. It CREATED isis. You realise that, right? Are you really naive enough to think "but this time we'll beat them all!"? It will make it worse. Whatever comes after ISIS as a result of more war heaped upon war, will be worse.