[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

And it was all over the news this week with Sturgeon saying we must do better.

Surely she wasnt saying we must do better in PISA tests hahah? Do you have a link to that? That would turn me right off her, surely she meant education in general.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Surely she wasnt saying we must do better in PISA tests hahah? Do you have a link to that? That would turn me right off her, surely she meant education in general.

I'm looking for it and hoping I didn't post the wrong link and was thinking of this one. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-39885792

With regard the PISA I read something on my tablet that I'm struggling to find on my pc. I think the PISA story was republished in relation to the other articles relating to Scotland's own published results in an article I read on my tablet and that I've maybe pasted the wrong link, thinking it was that one.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I'm looking for it and hoping I didn't post the wrong link and was thinking of this one. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-39885792

Okay good, it has nothing to do with PISA! Your OP implied it was all about PISA, those tests are honestly a waste of time, especially for 15 years olds.
I'm all for a better education system, I've said that before in the thread. But education shouldnt be measured by PISA, I'm so relieved nobody said it should be!

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Okay good, it has nothing to do with PISA! Your OP implied it was all about PISA, those tests are honestly a waste of time, especially for 15 years olds.
I'm all for a better education system, I've said that before in the thread. But education shouldnt be measured by PISA, I'm so relieved nobody said it should be!

I'll stand by what I said though You don't know that the PISA results are without value.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I'll stand by what I said though You don't know that the PISA results are without value.

If you're common sense tells you that testing a random sample of 15 year olds in an unimportant test that conflicts with their GCSEs is a good measurement of the UKs education system, (despite nobody telling you otherwise anyway, you clearly misinterpreted Nicola) then thats your prerogative.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

If you're common sense tells you that testing a random sample of 15 year olds in an unimportant test that conflicts with their GCSEs is a good measurement of the UKs education system, (despite nobody telling you otherwise anyway, you clearly misinterpreted Nicola) then thats your prerogative.

Scotland's own figures show a drop in standards so you can't really discount the PISA results. But my apologies if my link was confusing or lack of multiple links was confusing. I can't paste links on the tablet so came to look for what I'd read the other day on the PC where I can paste links.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Scotland's own figures show a drop in standards so you can't really discount the PISA results. But my apologies if my link was confusing or lack of multiple links was confusing.

PISA tests should be discounted by everybody always, unless they test every school and every age.

The sources that you have added are interesting and makes our discussion kinda pointless, to summarise, PISA tests are stupid and have zero reflection on education in the UK.

I'll look through your other articles later, I honestly think we can agree with the points raised within them there - i do think the UK education system is a bit ****e in places, but you cant make this point with pisa scores.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I'm sorry Withano but you are still making bald statements about these PISA tests with absolutely nothing to back up your statements or claims apart from opinion. You can't state that as fact, you don't know it is fact. I don't know it as fact but I wouldn't take just your word on it without some sort of evidence that backs you up. Unless you have some sort of qualification that names you an expert on the subject of course?

Originally Posted by Withano

If you're common sense tells you that testing a random sample of 15 year olds in an unimportant test that conflicts with their GCSEs is a good measurement of the UKs education system, (despite nobody telling you otherwise anyway, you clearly misinterpreted Nicola) then thats your prerogative.

.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano View Post
If you're common sense tells you that testing a random sample of 15 year olds in an unimportant test that conflicts with their GCSEs is a good measurement of the UKs education system, (despite nobody telling you otherwise anyway, you clearly misinterpreted Nicola) then thats your prerogative.

Personalised Judgement in this case without any specialised knowledge is pretty worthless.