[Gusto Brunt]

I heard that stupid Mrs May reading her statement out after the attacks, and she said 'enough is enough.'

What a dope. As if the Manchester murders was like the government saying to the terrorists 'we'll give you one more chance, then it will be enough is enough..'

I ask you, to stop and listen what these politicians actually saying. Most of them are morons who speak like parrots. They haven't got a living brain cell.

Mrs May is a complete idiot. I hear words coming out of her mouth, but she never actually says anything.

Thick as two short planks.

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Unconfirmed but it looks like at least one of the attackers was reported by the Muslim community, Prevent needs a radical overhaul

Won't change. I know at least 4-5 people who live down the road from me that have gone to Libya/Syria to fight and come back and nothing has happened despite the reports.

[Shaun]

Have you reported yourself, Leon? (If so, what's the system/process like?)

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Have you reported yourself, Leon? (If so, what's the system/process like?)

I filled out the online form on the Met website. Fairly simple. My father phoned their hotline though after a couple of them approached him and tried to get him to convert to to their extreme wahabi views. He found it a little annoying as they pretty much constantly ask "Are you in danger now? is it an urgent emergency now" so whenever he said "well no not now" he felt a little silly and had to keep stressing that they may pose a threat rather than they are exactly now. I think that may be the flaw in the system as I imagine they must get so many reports.

[longstar]

60 percent of Muslims said that they would not report a fellow Muslim if they plan to attack or fight with isis, that's a big amount of enemy on your doorstep, and people will have to realize that multiculturalism an diversity is a failed experiment, the whole motion of people from different race,religion,an cultures can live together is just a dream that can never work, most Muslims don't want to integrate and live in enclaves, and the problem is deflected with excuses on us not them, political correctness has made us weak and feeble to fight back, and are politicians are even much worse, they are too scared to offend them with the truth, and we can't deport Muslim sex gangs and they are still grooming girls even today, and the same with the Extremists, can't deport them, why, are farce of the human rights laws that we are stuck with, and is it time this country started to debate about repatriation of its Muslim population, and integration holds the key to this hole thing, because the attacks in this country prove that we can't keep going back to square one every time this happens,

[DemolitionRed]

My husband and me lay flowers and a note at the bridge today. Our thoughts are with those who lost their loved ones and all those who have been injured.

[Marsh.]

60% of Muslims not reporting doesn't make them the enemy. They're probably scared themselves.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

I filled out the online form on the Met website. Fairly simple. My father phoned their hotline though after a couple of them approached him and tried to get him to convert to to their extreme wahabi views. He found it a little annoying as they pretty much constantly ask "Are you in danger now? is it an urgent emergency now" so whenever he said "well no not now" he felt a little silly and had to keep stressing that they may pose a threat rather than they are exactly now. I think that may be the flaw in the system as I imagine they must get so many reports.

That's both shocking and unsurprising at the same time, Prevent is just a box ticking exercise it seems, roll out the videos, tell people to report possible radicalisation and then file it in the bin

[James]

Maybe the authorities should make the names on the watch-lists public so the public can keep an eye on them more?

Just an idea.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by James

Maybe the authorities should make the names on the watch-lists public so the public can keep an eye on them more?

Just an idea.

The problem then is witch hunts and innocent people being mistakenly harrassed.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jaxie

The problem then is witch hunts and innocent people being mistakenly harrassed.

Harassed? I think they would probably be lynched.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by James

Maybe the authorities should make the names on the watch-lists public so the public can keep an eye on them more?

Just an idea.

Wouldn't that turn people into vigilantes, and what if they were being watched but were innocent

increase the number of police, not cut

[James]

Okay, was just thinking out loud.

What about cracking down on sites like Youtube hosting extremist propaganda. They said on the news that people that knew one of the attackers were saying he watched a radical preacher on Youtube, and some of the videos were still there.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Wouldn't that turn people into vigilantes, and what if they were being watched but were innocent

increase the number of police, not cut

This is also why language used should be sensitively applied to avoid vigilante like action.
Which in the end could increase tensions and have things far worse even.

Totally agree,really invest in security and get the numbers of Police back up again.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by James

Okay, was just thinking out loud.

What about cracking down on sites like Youtube hosting extremist propaganda. They said on the news that people that knew one of the attackers were saying he watched a radical preacher on Youtube, and some of the videos were still there.

it's crazy that stuff like that is freely available on YouTube

[DemolitionRed]

Police calling government liars on Sky

Youtube video

[thesheriff443]

What a mess humans have made of life on this planet.

[arista]

[James]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

What a mess humans have made of life on this planet.

^ That's a bit nihilistic. The problem we have is a small percentage of people can cause a lot of damage, and some people are power-hungry or greedy and they can take control of others through force.

[arista]

[arista]

[Withano]

Originally Posted by arista

I dont think I've actually seen a real life newspaper in years (im not even exaggerating). Is this normal? It seems a bit graphic?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Harassed? I think they would probably be lynched.

I think you're right.They'd have to leave the country which wouldn't be so bad if they were guilty.However if it's just Doreen accross the road who saw them praying in the front window while she was curtain twitching and thought it looked dodgy then innocent people could end up in danger.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Cherie

it's crazy that stuff like that is freely available on YouTube

It is crazy!They take your vids down for copyright violations if you use somebody elses music

[arista]

Originally Posted by Withano

I dont think I've actually seen a real life newspaper in years (im not even exaggerating). Is this normal? It seems a bit graphic?

Only showing the dead three Terrorists
that were just on TV news worldwide