[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

If you dont want a child use contraception or dont have sex simply

Good solutions there, when are you running for office?

Contraception is not 100% safe and the idea of people not having sex to appease a man who wants to remove the option of choice away from women is just plain silly.

The abortion laws are not broken, stop trying to fix them.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Good solutions there, when are you running for office?

Contraception is not 100% safe and the idea of people not having sex to appease a man who wants to remove the option of choice away from women is just plain silly.

The abortion laws are not broken, stop trying to fix them.

There is also a morning after pill.

Abortions are use as a way to not have safe sex because the nhs will help you get rid of the child anyway.

Unless its a better reason then i dont want a child they should not be entitled to one

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

There is also a morning after pill.

Abortions are use as a way to not have safe sex because the nhs will help you get rid of the child anyway.

Unless its a better reason then i dont want a child they should not be entitled to one

Well that's hypocritical for a start, why is the morning after pill fine but not abortion?

You don't really understand abortion and the effect it can have on people, do you? It's rarely a case of 'oh, I got knocked up, time to get an abo-bo!' An abortion is a difficult choice to make and can often have a lasting effect on women who choose to have one. It is never an easy choice and most people would not consider it just another form of contraception.

At the end of the day, you are just another man trying to tell women what they can or can't do with their own bodies.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well that's hypocritical for a start, why is the morning after pill fine but not abortion?

You don't really understand abortion and the effect it can have on people, do you? It's rarely a case of 'oh, I got knocked up, time to get an abo-bo!' An abortion is a difficult choice to make and can often have a lasting effect on women who choose to have one. It is never an easy choice and most people would not consider it just another form of contraception.

At the end of the day, you are just another man trying to tell women what they can or can't do with their own bodies.

How are you as a mod allowed to get away with saying stuff like this but ban any you dont like who says similar?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

How are you as a mod allowed to get away with saying stuff like this but ban any you dont like who says similar?

Are you not a man trying to tell women what they can or can't do with their bodies? Did you not say you would want to illegalise abortion outside of rape? If so then what is factually incorrect about what I have said?

The truth is that nothing is wrong with my post, you don't have an answer so you went to the good ol' tactic that so many people rely on 'Can't argue with Dezzy? Throw out personal attacks about him being a mod.'

Have I banned anyone for saying anything similar to what I said for you? You seem to know more about the infractions system then even me so please enlighten me. Where and when have I banned anyone for saying that? Go ahead, I'll wait.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Are you not a man trying to tell women what they can or can't do with their bodies? Did you not say you would want to illegalise abortion outside of rape? If so then what is factually incorrect about what I have said?

The truth is that nothing is wrong with my post, you don't have an answer so you went to the good ol' tactic that so many people rely on 'Can't argue with Dezzy? Throw out personal attacks about him being a mod.'

Have I banned anyone for saying anything similar to what I said for you? You seem to know more about the infractions system then even me so please enlighten me. Where and when have I banned anyone for saying that? Go ahead, I'll wait.

You tell be why do you think it is ok to muder a fully grown fetus?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

You tell be why do you think it is ok to muder a fully grown fetus?

Late term abortions are not offered like early abortions, they are only done for medical reasons. The vast majority of abortions take place when the fetus is nothing more than a bundle of cells so your point doesn't really stand.

Also life begins at birth, not at contraception. If you believe that fetuses are alive in the same manner as other people then why are you fine with the Morning After Pill? You dodged my question regarding that last time.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

There is also a morning after pill.

Abortions are use as a way to not have safe sex because the nhs will help you get rid of the child anyway.

Unless its a better reason then i dont want a child they should not be entitled to one

What will you do with all of the unwanted babies in care? After forcing women to go through pregnancy and labour and such. Do you realise giving birth can actually be quite dangerous, even without preexisting problems?

You cannot expect people to use contraception and then take the morning after pill too each time they have sex?! And...that could fail too. What then?

A friend of mine was on the injection and using condoms and got pregnant. So double contraception failures whilst rare, do happen.

I doubt anyone (besides a couple of sick bastards) uses abortion as contraception, like you appear to be suggesting here. As someone who actually had one at 15 years old...it still affects me to this day. No matter what I could not have had another one. I do not understand how people can do it over and over. I know a couple of women do, the ones paraded round in the press for shock factor. But I think anyone who would actually do this is mentally ill tbh.

Originally Posted by Adam.

How are you as a mod allowed to get away with saying stuff like this but ban any you dont like who says similar?

I actually don't see what dezzy said wrong here. And I have never seen someone banned for saying something like this, ever.

[user104658]

As for contraception - I'm proud father to a 7 year old pill-baby ... my second was planned, but we did get pregnant a 3rd time when my wife had a contraceptive coil. It was an early miscarriage though... most pregnancies that happen whilst there's a coil implant are (what with there being a foreign object in the uterus).

But yeah, two pregnancies whilst on contraception. It's definitely far from perfect.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

As for contraception - I'm proud father to a 7 year old pill-baby ... my second was planned, but we did get pregnant a 3rd time when my wife had a contraceptive coil. It was an early miscarriage though... most pregnancies that happen whilst there's a coil implant are (what with there being a foreign object in the uterus).

But yeah, two pregnancies whilst on contraception. It's definitely far from perfect.

My sister got pregnant on a coil but didnt find out till half way through but he pulled through and is 7 this year

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

As for contraception - I'm proud father to a 7 year old pill-baby ... my second was planned, but we did get pregnant a 3rd time when my wife had a contraceptive coil. It was an early miscarriage though... most pregnancies that happen whilst there's a coil implant are (what with there being a foreign object in the uterus).

But yeah, two pregnancies whilst on contraception. It's definitely far from perfect.

Someone I know fathered a child after he had had the snip And yes, the child definitely is his before someone says...