[Jack_]

I honestly think it's the abysmal production that stops any C5 series toppling the golden era for me. There's been casts in the last few years that I'd say were better a a group than 7 for sure, but what the latter had going for it was a slick, professional production team, with creative tasks, innovative and perfectly executed twists, and not the tacky, incompetent, mistake-laden mess we have now I judge a series as a whole package

Mind you, BB17 came very close to becoming my third favourite series. Had Hughie, Andy or Jackson won, it would've toppled BB10 and been under 6 and 7 respectively. Alas Jason won and now I still debate whether I prefer it to 15 or not. It came so close

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I honestly think it's the abysmal production that stops any C5 series toppling the golden era for me. There's been casts in the last few years that I'd say were better a a group than 7 for sure, but what the latter had going for it was a slick, professional production team, with creative tasks, innovative and perfectly executed twists, and not the tacky, incompetent, mistake-laden mess we have now I judge a series as a whole package

Mind you, BB17 came very close to becoming my third favourite series. Had Hughie, Andy or Jackson won, it would've toppled BB10 and been under 6 and 7 respectively. Alas Jason won and now I still debate whether I prefer it to 15 or not. It came so close

I am surprised you factor in the winner as to which is a great series tbh. I don't think that really matters given winners in general are dire with a couple of exceptions.

My fave series if BB6 but Anthony is probably in my bottom 5 of winners.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I am surprised you factor in the winner as to which is a great series tbh. I don't think that really matters given winners in general are dire with a couple of exceptions.

My fave series if BB6 but Anthony is probably in my bottom 5 of winners.

It's a weird one. It's certainly not a case of I forget the entirety of the weeks that have preceded it, but I do feel pretty cheated if I've wasted a couple of months watching a series for some ****ing bore to go and win (the worst case of this was Sam Evans ). I do put a fair amount of importance on the winner but I'd say I mainly use it as a way of distinguishing between series' I enjoyed on near-equal terms. So, BB15 ranks above 14 by virtue of it having the most deserving final two of all time, whereas 13 goes lower than 12 (he says with huge trepidation on this forum) because Aaron is a far better winner than Luke A