[Greg!]

Um we knew this on launch night.

[arista]

not a problem

[Glenn-C]

Didn't his mum say he actually didn't? He probably said that so they'd put him in

[Beso]

Im voting hilary.

[Brother Leon]

I don't judge people political views. If I did then most of the world are *****. Besides, the American Election was a joke with two of the worst and most corrupt candidates ever. I can't judge either fanbase as it was choosing between twats.

[pontyboi]

Look my gran has supported labour all her life, I have friends who love trump and friends who hate trump......let's not get started on Theresa May lol

The fact is I judge a person or housemate not on their political or religious beliefs but on how they are in the house.

Raph isn't perfect and what he said in his vt was probably an exxageration of his actual character to get in the house but I like the man and the way he acted on fight night gets a lot of praise from me.

[Littlegreen]

I had to defend Joel for weeks on end because he was a politician and now this with Raph... my favourites are always stressful.

But no, I don't judge on political stances. Everybody has an opinion and that should be respected.

[Alf]

Being a Trump supporter, probably means he's gonna win.

Trump supporters have been winning lots lately.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Alf

Being a Trump supporter, probably means he's gonna win.

Trump supporters have been winning lots lately.

But, weirdly, not by popular vote.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Alf

Being a Trump supporter, probably means he's gonna win.

Trump supporters have been winning lots lately.

I must have missed that.

I was more interested watching Trump scramble in relation to news that tapes of his people colluding with Russia are about to emerge. Probably got something to do with the fact that some of those being investigated have been doing deals with the Feds to sell Trump out.

[storybrooke]

If he brought politics into the house then maybe we could judge him for it, but he hasn't so I am not going to love/hate him because of who he supports politically

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by storybrooke

If he brought politics into the house then maybe we could judge him for it, but he hasn't so I am not going to love/hate him because of who he supports politically

You don't think that tells you a lot about who they are?

If he wore a swastika in his VT, but then never mentioned it in the house... That would be ok to you?

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

You don't think that tells you a lot about who they are?

If he wore a swastika in his VT, but then never mentioned it in the house... That would be ok to you?

Look im in no way standing up for Trump I think he's a moron and yet another reality TV star or movie star to become president or the mayor of California.

We all know people say controversial things to get in the house and Raph being one of us and knowing exactly how to play producers hopped on the Trump bandwagon which was at the time he auditioned a huge talking point....obviously he had to carry that onto his vt but I think that was all a front.

He's a decent guy imo.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

Look im in no way standing up for Trump I think he's a moron... but I think (Raph) that was all a front.

Sounds like you are excusing an expressed political belief in order to support a HM.

I mean, I ask again, if a HM that you didn't know wore a swastika in his VT, would you out it down to front and rationalise it? Does a HMs politics matter or not?

Who we support speaks volumes about who we are and what we stand for, especially expressing that support on TV.

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Sounds like you are excusing an expressed political belief in order to support a HM.

I mean, I ask again, if a HM that you didn't know wore a swastika in his VT, would you out it down to front and rationalise it? Does a HMs politics matter or not?

Who we support speaks volumes about who we are and what we stand for, especially expressing that support on TV.

My god lol! You lost this at Swastika. Trying to be controversial won't win over a level headed (handsome) forum member

Can I also just say I don't "support" anyone for me BB changes day to day and I judge from what I see. I'm not some teeny bopper pushing my fan beliefs on others for gods sakes im 32 years old!

All jokes aside like I said I judge housemates on their behaviour in the house. I don't behave like the tabloids and drag up **** they said before entering because I'm wiser than that and as a BB fan so should you be. We all know every single person put on a persona to get in the house that is FACT.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by vesavius

You don't think that tells you a lot about who they are?

If he wore a swastika in his VT, but then never mentioned it in the house... That would be ok to you?

That's a bit different.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

That's a bit different.

Is it? How?

I use it as an example of a political belief. The question is does the political leanings of a HM outside the house matter when they are in there if they don't mention it inside.

Why does it matter what those leanings are, once they are inside?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Is it? How?

I use it as an example of a political belief. The question is does the political leanings of a HM outside the house matter when they are in there if they don't mention it inside.

Why does it matter what those leanings are, once they are inside?

If Raph said that he supported Hitler massacring millions of Jewish people, and caused a World War because he was a dictator then I wouldn't support Raph.

[storybrooke]

Originally Posted by vesavius

You don't think that tells you a lot about who they are?

If he wore a swastika in his VT, but then never mentioned it in the house... That would be ok to you?

Yeah I suppose you can learn something from it, but political beliefs don't define an entire personality in my opinion.

But no I wouldn't support him in the house if he wore a swastika.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by storybrooke

Yeah I suppose you can learn something from it, but political beliefs don't define an entire personality in my opinion.

But no I wouldn't support him in the house if he wore a swastika.

That's fine. I can accept that as a PoV.

[Marsh.]

Swastika? That counts as a Hitler mention right?

You lose Vesavius! You lose!

[YourLAEx]

It was either Trump or Hilary, it's like choosing vagina or tits, both terrible choices

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by YourLAEx

It was either Trump or Hilary, it's like choosing vagina or tits, both terrible choices

[Novo]

The Alt Right all voting in their numbers and hijacking the liberal vote for Chanelle in the final

[Mystic Mock]

I don't agree with Raph on Trump, but he still comes across as a nice guy.