[Ant.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Everyone on here has the same rights, to like or dislike any hm8 they wish,and should be able to comment on them without being baited ,they are ALL up for discussion

No one's baiting. It's a good point. Raph haters just seem really... obsessed. While a majority of the site hates Lotan, he's barely insulted, and many of us agree that issy's comment about him being a bad role model was out of line. Besides a few people agreeing she shouldn't have said it, i don't think I've anyone has ever insulted him - not personally, at least

Raph, on the other hand, just seems to be victim to a lot of hate and insults. Wondering if he's asexual or lying about gay is annoying and one thing, and calling him a bore is fine and understandable, but it's worrying when people insult him so personally, especially with profanities

Is that discussion allowed? Yes, but Raph's gonna log on eventually and see really horrible comments towards him and virtually none to other housemates. I'd argue the vile comments Raph has made about him are baiting towards other members since Raph's a member and close friend of people on here - yet ironically they're not the ones complaining they're being baited

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

No one's baiting. It's a good point. Raph haters just seem really... obsessed. While a majority of the site hates Lotan, he's barely insulted, and many of us agree that issy's comment about him being a bad role model was out of line. Besides a few people agreeing she shouldn't have said it, i don't think I've anyone has ever insulted him - not personally, at least

Raph, on the other hand, just seems to be victim to a lot of hate and insults. Wondering if he's asexual or lying about gay is annoying and one thing, and calling him a bore is fine and understandable, but it's worrying when people insult him so personally, especially with profanities

Is that discussion allowed? Yes, but Raph's gonna log on eventually and see really horrible comments towards him and virtually none to other housemates. I'd argue the vile comments Raph has made about him are baiting towards other members since Raph's a member and close friend of people on here - yet ironically they're not the ones complaining they're being baited

Great post and I agree. I hope Raph also sees how hard us fans fought for him. It hasn't been easy, but we have his back.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Great post and I agree. I hope Raph also sees how hard us fans fought for him. It hasn't been easy, but we have his back.

Thanks, and as do I. He's had one of the biggest fanclubs on the show and I'm sure he'll recognise all the hardwork you, rph, LukeB and all the others have put in to supporting and voting fo him

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

Thanks, and as do I. He's had one of the biggest fanclubs on the show and I'm sure he'll recognise all the hardwork you, rph, LukeB and all the others have put in to supporting and voting fo him

I'm sure your loyalty wont be invain and if he is a superfan he will also aknowledge he will not be everyones fave and accept that,I don't suppose it will bother him that much as long as people are honest. I can imagine there will be such a scramble in here when he is back.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I'm sure your loyalty wont be invain and if he is a superfan he will also aknowledge he will not be everyones fave and accept that,I don't suppose it will bother him that much as long as people are honest. I can imagine there will be such a scramble in here when he is back.

Oh he'll know he will be hated, no matter how perfect or imperfect he is. He took being called "two-faced" hard and while I disagree and wouldn't agree with it being said about him since he doesn't like it, if someone felt that way I'd say that's a fair criticism to make about him - or anyone

But when he's being called a ***** and is having his personality and sexuality/identity insulted (in a more obscene way than I've seen compared to other housemates), it must be disheartening to say the least

And true, whether it's this Friday or next (or maybe midweek), his return's gonna cause drama (or so I'd imagine - he'd definitely get asked a LOT of questions at least)

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

No one's baiting. It's a good point. Raph haters just seem really... obsessed. While a majority of the site hates Lotan, he's barely insulted, and many of us agree that issy's comment about him being a bad role model was out of line. Besides a few people agreeing she shouldn't have said it, i don't think I've anyone has ever insulted him - not personally, at least

Raph, on the other hand, just seems to be victim to a lot of hate and insults. Wondering if he's asexual or lying about gay is annoying and one thing, and calling him a bore is fine and understandable, but it's worrying when people insult him so personally, especially with profanities

Is that discussion allowed? Yes, but Raph's gonna log on eventually and see really horrible comments towards him and virtually none to other housemates. I'd argue the vile comments Raph has made about him are baiting towards other members since Raph's a member and close friend of people on here - yet ironically they're not the ones complaining they're being baited

So do all the other hm8s, Raph is not a special case that no one can comment on ,Ive seen lots of other hm8s being treat a damn sight worse than Snake Boy who gets spoken about by certain people as if he's found a cure for cancer

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

No one's baiting. It's a good point. Raph haters just seem really... obsessed. While a majority of the site hates Lotan, he's barely insulted, and many of us agree that issy's comment about him being a bad role model was out of line. Besides a few people agreeing she shouldn't have said it, i don't think I've anyone has ever insulted him - not personally, at least

Raph, on the other hand, just seems to be victim to a lot of hate and insults. Wondering if he's asexual or lying about gay is annoying and one thing, and calling him a bore is fine and understandable, but it's worrying when people insult him so personally, especially with profanities

Is that discussion allowed? Yes, but Raph's gonna log on eventually and see really horrible comments towards him and virtually none to other housemates. I'd argue the vile comments Raph has made about him are baiting towards other members since Raph's a member and close friend of people on here - yet ironically they're not the ones complaining they're being baited

So thats it You want him to think you've defended his honour, why didn't you just say that in the first place instead of writing an essay ? Silly Billy !

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

So thats it You want him to think you've defended his honour, why didn't you just say that in the first place instead of writing an essay ? Silly Billy !

I've never spoken to Raph, i couldn"t care if Raph spoke to me, and I don't care if he reads this. The fact is, Raph's gonna see your nasty uncalled comments which are personal. It's not fair.
Surely you'd understand when you get so pressed about people "baiting" you? Which is ironic, as you condescendingly called me "silly billy". Am I really the silly one when you ignore all my valid point?