[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's about "my feelings"? I'm not personally offended by it at all Alf, hate to break it to you, I'm sure it'd give you that down-low tickle if I was. The thread title was a question, I'm answering the question. And as there don't appear to be any Zulus on the forum... it would be a pretty quiet thread if non-Zulus weren't supposed to answer .

Unless the only acceptable answer is "Oh derp I denno cos I'm not a Zulu!"

Though that would explain quite a lot about many people's inability to grasp the concept of racism . "Werl I'm not one of them so I denno what is a racism".

For an articulate poster I am always disappointed when you regularly resort to attempting to undermine other posters by attempting to suggest that anyone you perceive may have ‘racist’ views must be ‘semi-illiterate and uneducated’ with the use of language such as ‘derp’ and ’denno’’. Patronising or manipulative or both - hmm!

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

For an articulate poster I am always disappointed when you regularly resort to attempting to undermine other posters by attempting to suggest that anyone you perceive may have ‘racist’ views must be ‘semi-illiterate and uneducated’ with the use of language such as ‘derp’ and ’denno’’. Patronising or manipulative or both - hmm!

See, that's where you're wrong Brillo. I don't think people are semi-illiterate, uneducated or stupid, and that's really my main problem with it. I think people willfully PRETEND that they don't "get why it might be racially insensitive" because they don't want to change their behavior, or feel that by being asked to be considerate they are somehow being controlled or having their freedoms removed. I highly suspect that certain people arguing against the idea that it might be racist understand the argument perfectly well, but will swear blue in the face that they don't, because it doesn't suit them to be understanding of it. Hence; "Derp!". It's not me saying that people ARE stupid, it's me saying "Stop ****ing pretending to be", even if you do disagree with it, argue against it and justify it PROPERLY instead of pretending "not to get it at all".

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

See, that's where you're wrong Brillo. I don't think people are semi-illiterate, uneducated or stupid, and that's really my main problem with it. I think people willfully PRETEND that they don't "get why it might be racially insensitive" because they don't want to change their behavior, or feel that by being asked to be considerate they are somehow being controlled or having their freedoms removed. I highly suspect that certain people arguing against the idea that it might be racist understand the argument perfectly well, but will swear blue in the face that they don't, because it doesn't suit them to be understanding of it. Hence; "Derp!". It's not me saying that people ARE stupid, it's me saying "Stop ****ing pretending to be", even if you do disagree with it, argue against it and justify it PROPERLY instead of pretending "not to get it at all".

It's a fancy dress costume, there is no need to make it political. It's just someone having a fun night out at a fancy dress party, they are not trying to oppress anyone.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

It's a fancy dress costume, there is no need to make it political. It's just someone having a fun night out at a fancy dress party, they are not trying to oppress anyone.

Heaven forbid that we not be OK with someone having a jolly good ol' time at the expense of others Alf.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

See, that's where you're wrong Brillo. I don't think people are semi-illiterate, uneducated or stupid, and that's really my main problem with it. I think people willfully PRETEND that they don't "get why it might be racially insensitive" because they don't want to change their behavior, or feel that by being asked to be considerate they are somehow being controlled or having their freedoms removed. I highly suspect that certain people arguing against the idea that it might be racist understand the argument perfectly well, but will swear blue in the face that they don't, because it doesn't suit them to be understanding of it. Hence; "Derp!". It's not me saying that people ARE stupid, it's me saying "Stop ****ing pretending to be", even if you do disagree with it, argue against it and justify it PROPERLY instead of pretending "not to get it at all".

But however well or how strongly you put it it is still only opinion but you suggest it is based on knowledge asking people to reply without googling. How the hell do we know you didn’t google anything?

I would imagine most are aware of the slavery of blacks in the past, often by their own, not just whites. But I would also imagine they would be aware of the slavery of women in the past and present. And ironically the countries where female slavery, violence, rape and murder are most prevalent are most likely to occur within non-white communities. Unpalletable perhaps, but true.

I see you defend what you see as ‘racism’ at every turn but tbh I don’t remember seeing you defend ‘sexism’ - certainly not with the same vigor. Life for many in this world is pretty damn unbearable based on the fact they are female. But how often is that condemned on here!