[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Because the fact that you felt wronged and upset in that thread is the main reason that you now feel the need to jump to the defense of someone else who you feel is in a similar position, even though it really isn't.

As it happens, I do appreciate why you have a bias relating to those specific issues, it is completely understandable, anyone with such personal involvement would. I would have far less issue with Brillo's views and xenophobia if, for example, she had lost family to Islamic extremism.

But as far as I can tell she hasn't, she just likes to froth over tabloid headlines and her own racist, small minded assumptions and subject everyone else to them as well.

Hating Islamic terrorists shouldn't be reserved for those who have lost family to them, should it? Maybe Brillo feels deeply for those who have. I don't really understand your reasoning here.
My support of Brillo has nothing to do with the thread you refer to. I don't always agree with her views, but calling her racist is the easy way out instead of giving her views respectful consideration and understanding her perspective of having strong views and a deep interest in the subjects she posts about, which I do. I don't believe she is racist, many others don't, so maybe YOU are wrong? I simply and genuinely believe she is ganged up on mercilessly and has been for a long time. People are now speaking out against this. About time.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by jet

Hating Islamic terrorists shouldn't be reserved for those who have lost family to them, should it? Maybe Brillo feels deeply for those who have. I don't really understand your reasoning here.
My support of Brillo has nothing to do with the thread you refer to. I don't always agree with her views, but calling her racist is the easy way out instead of giving her views respectful consideration and understanding her perspective of having strong views and a deep interest in the subjects she posts about, which I do. I don't believe she is racist, many others don't, so maybe YOU are wrong? I simply and genuinely believe she is ganged up on mercilessly and has been for a long time. People are now speaking out against this. About time.

Thanks Jet. Despite what some people like to think, I am not made of stone. Things get to me too - but I am stubborn and the more people push the more I push back. I will never give in to that kind of cr*p.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jet

Hating Islamic terrorists shouldn't be reserved for those who have lost family to them, should it? Maybe Brillo feels deeply for those who have. I don't really understand your reasoning here.
My support of Brillo has nothing to do with the thread you refer to. I don't always agree with her views, but calling her racist is the easy way out instead of giving her views respectful consideration and understanding her perspective of having strong views and a deep interest in the subjects she posts about, which I do. I don't believe she is racist, many others don't, so maybe YOU are wrong? I simply and genuinely believe she is ganged up on mercilessly and has been for a long time. People are now speaking out against this. About time.

Brillo's opposition to Islamic extremism has absolutely nothing to do with the things that I find to be racist. Brillo's general disdain for pretty much everyone and everything that pertains to anyone from the middle east is what I'm calling racist. Perhaps you've missed those threads? To give an example; there was a thread about a boy from a private school and some sort of issue the school had had with his mother. There was NO personal information about the family, other than their name and a picture showing their race.

None. Their religion isn't mentioned, even, there is no suggestion at all that they were even Muslim.

Brillo launched full force into a rant about "the mothers likely beliefs" and "what these people expect". From a foreign sounding name, and a picture of the son in school uniform.

That is the very definition of racial prejudice. Perhaps you missed that one? Or are you going to argue that it ISN'T racist? There are countless other examples. You aren't on here as much as some of us (not that that's a bad thing; I'm on here waaay too much) but, perhaps, you happen not to have seen the genuinely racist posts that have informed my view over time. They are there. It's not obvious in every post, but once you've seen them, it becomes quite obvious.

Regardless... It doesn't really matter that you or others disagree with me. But I guess if we have to, we'll go back here, again: I'm stating MY OPINION nothing more, I'm not trying to manipulate or state something as a universal truth that all people must believe, no matter how many times you would all like to pretend that I am to distract from my opinion.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Brillo's opposition to Islamic extremism has absolutely nothing to do with the things that I find to be racist. Brillo's general disdain for pretty much everyone and everything that pertains to anyone from the middle east is what I'm calling racist. Perhaps you've missed those threads? To give an example; there was a thread about a boy from a private school and some sort of issue the school had had with his mother. There was NO personal information about the family, other than their name and a picture showing their race.

None. Their religion isn't mentioned, even, there is no suggestion at all that they were even Muslim.

Brillo launched full force into a rant about "the mothers likely beliefs" and "what these people expect". From a foreign sounding name, and a picture of the son in school uniform.

That is the very definition of racial prejudice. Perhaps you missed that one? Or are you going to argue that it ISN'T racist? There are countless other examples. You aren't on here as much as some of us (not that that's a bad thing; I'm on here waaay too much) but, perhaps, you happen not to have seen the genuinely racist posts that have informed my view over time. They are there. It's not obvious in every post, but once you've seen them, it becomes quite obvious.

Regardless... It doesn't really matter that you or others disagree with me. But I guess if we have to, we'll go back here, again: I'm stating MY OPINION nothing more, I'm not trying to manipulate or state something as a universal truth that all people must believe, no matter how many times you would all like to pretend that I am to distract from my opinion.

It becomes ‘obvious’ to those who see what they want to see.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

It becomes ‘obvious’ to those who see what they want to see.

Utterly meaningless Brillo.

Though I notice there's not even an attempt to justify the bile you were pumping out in the specific thread I used as an example.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Utterly meaningless Brillo.

Just like your little diatribe.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Just like your little diatribe.

So we've descended into the "no that's u that is" stuff again. OK. The thread has run its course, I guess.

As a final thought I'd just say... You talk a lot about wishing for a "world without PC" where people can say what they want, but then you go into victim / persecuted mode when people say what they want about your posts and call out the ones that they don't like. Do you actually want that world, or not? It seems a lot like you really don't want it. Or maybe you only want it for yourself and your views. It doesn't work that way and it never will.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So we've descended into the "no that's u that is" stuff again. OK. The thread has run its course, I guess.

As a final thought I'd just say... You talk a lot about wishing for a "world without PC" where people can say what they want, but then you go into victim / persecuted mode when people say what they want about your posts and call out the ones that they don't like. Do you actually want that world, or not? It seems a lot like you really don't want it. Or maybe you only want it for yourself and your views. It doesn't work that way and it never will.

I have never said that people should be able to say anything they want, and that works both ways, but people should be able to express views and opinions in a reasonable way on issues that affect everyone, however much some don’t like it, and without having to put up with constant character assassination because of it. It is childish and controlling and in the grown-up world should never work that way.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So we've descended into the "no that's u that is" stuff again. OK. The thread has run its course, I guess.

As a final thought I'd just say... You talk a lot about wishing for a "world without PC" where people can say what they want, but then you go into victim / persecuted mode when people say what they want about your posts and call out the ones that they don't like. Do you actually want that world, or not? It seems a lot like you really don't want it. Or maybe you only want it for yourself and your views. It doesn't work that way and it never will.

@Brillo

I don't despise you Brillo. I even agree with you sometimes but when it comes to Muslims and immigrants, you don't come over well.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So we've descended into the "no that's u that is" stuff again. OK. The thread has run its course, I guess.

As a final thought I'd just say... You talk a lot about wishing for a "world without PC" where people can say what they want, but then you go into victim / persecuted mode when people say what they want about your posts and call out the ones that they don't like. Do you actually want that world, or not? It seems a lot like you really don't want it. Or maybe you only want it for yourself and your views. It doesn't work that way and it never will.

I have the same issue, recently the word 'shameful' has been cropping up.... has anyone else noticed this? It usually makes an appearance at times of tragedy when it's inferred that the powers that be be held accountable or difficult questions are asked.
Being accused of being 'PC' is the same, it's a way of silencing people by mocking them and attempting to reduce their opinion enough that it be dismissed.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So we've descended into the "no that's u that is" stuff again. OK. The thread has run its course, I guess.

As a final thought I'd just say... You talk a lot about wishing for a "world without PC" where people can say what they want, but then you go into victim / persecuted mode when people say what they want about your posts and call out the ones that they don't like. Do you actually want that world, or not? It seems a lot like you really don't want it. Or maybe you only want it for yourself and your views. It doesn't work that way and it never will.

So has it ran its course or not? Cause you have a heck of a lot to say afterwards.

"Threads ran its course but i will say one last thing" do you just want the world for yourself and your views?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jet

Hating Islamic terrorists shouldn't be reserved for those who have lost family to them, should it? Maybe Brillo feels deeply for those who have. I don't really understand your reasoning here.
My support of Brillo has nothing to do with the thread you refer to. I don't always agree with her views, but calling her racist is the easy way out instead of giving her views respectful consideration and understanding her perspective of having strong views and a deep interest in the subjects she posts about, which I do. I don't believe she is racist, many others don't, so maybe YOU are wrong? I simply and genuinely believe she is ganged up on mercilessly and has been for a long time. People are now speaking out against this. About time.

Spot on,it's been happening a while now,

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Spot on,it's been happening a while now,