[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Cherie

oh you mean like the much loved "cat ladies" innocent remark which a lot of members found hilarious but apparently was not meant to offend

That debate has been done ad nauseum so I won't entertain it again but if you had such an issue with a remark you found to be baiting and insulting to members of the forum, why don't you have an issue with a poster denigrating young people and people on the left with petty and inflammatory comments?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

That debate has been done ad nauseum so I won't entertain it again but if you had such an issue with a remark you found to be baiting and insulting to members of the forum, why don't you have an issue with a poster denigrating young people and people on the left with petty and inflammatory comments?

I didn't say I didn't have an issue with it, if I agreed with any of those comments maybe you could find it for me. I don't agree with mass generalisations tbf, usually when Brillo reacts in this way it is a result of provocation, is she meant to just take it all on the chin?

anyway I have had enough of this points have been made. I'm off to do some work.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I didn't say I didn't have an issue with it, if I agreed with any of those comments maybe you could find it for me. I don't agree with mass generalisations tbf, usually when Brillo reacts in this way it is a result of provocation, is she meant to just take it all on the chin?

anyway I have had enough of this points have been made. I'm off to do some work.

Absolving Brillo of any blame and pretending that she never insults anyone first is akin to agreeing with the use of such comments as far as I'm concerned. She sometimes opens threads with these remarks, posting another article about Jeremy Corbyn and then making an inflammatory dig about those who voted for him being deluded and naive. I'm sure I could find several examples of this if I could be bothered.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Absolving Brillo of any blame and pretending that she never insults anyone first is akin to agreeing with the use of such comments as far as I'm concerned. She sometimes opens threads with these remarks, posting another article about Jeremy Corbyn and then making an inflammatory dig about those who voted for him being deluded and naive. I'm sure I could find several examples of this if I could be bothered.

Oh come on - have you conveniently forgotten the threads about May that got very personal and insulting. Besides politicians are up for criticism. You can't stop people criticising any politician unless you want to live in some kind of police state.

As for any comments about his supporters in general I can remember plenty of threads bashing tory supporters and EU leavers. I would have thought that when people start on individuals there is more of a problem.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Oh come on - have you conveniently forgotten the threads about May that got very personal and insulting. Besides politicians are up for criticism. You can't stop people criticising any politician unless you want to live in some kind of police state.

As for any comments about his supporters in general I can remember plenty of threads bashing tory supporters and EU leavers. I would have thought that when people start on individuals there is more of a problem.

The threads about May got very personal and insulting indeed. Towards her. As an elected official I can insult her as much as I want, just as you can towards Jeramy Corbyn. The difference is we're talking about blanket and derisive insults towards their supporters, which makes debates hostile and provokes arguments. I'm not going to sit here and pretend I've never partaken in that because that would be disingenuous, but I bet I could count on one hand the number of times that's happened without being provoked first.

Brillo, you regularly open your Corbyn and Labour bashing threads with a disparaging remark along the lines of 'his supporters are naive', 'these young left wingers are deluded and can't see the wood for the trees', etc etc. If you give it out, expect it back, you aren't making those comments without wanting a reaction.

Just to be clear, the reason this particular discussion began with Cherie was because she attempted to make out you never insult anyone without being provoked. I wanted to challenge that.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The threads about May got very personal and insulting indeed. Towards her. As an elected official I can insult her as much as I want, just as you can towards Jeramy Corbyn. The difference is we're talking about blanket and derisive insults towards their supporters, which makes debates hostile and provokes arguments. I'm not going to sit here and pretend I've never partaken in that because that would be disingenuous, but I bet I could count on one hand the number of times that's happened without being provoked first.

Brillo, you regularly open your Corbyn and Labour bashing threads with a disparaging remark along the lines of 'his supporters are naive', 'these young left wingers are deluded and can't see the wood for the trees', etc etc. If you give it out, expect it back, you aren't making those comments without wanting a reaction.

Just to be clear, the reason this particular discussion began with Cherie was because she attempted to make out you never insult anyone without being provoked. I wanted to challenge that.

When I do it's because I am sick of all the sarcastic digs about those that voted for the Tories as well as those that voted to leave. You see in that regard it is very much a two-way street.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

When I do it's because I am sick of all the sarcastic digs about those that voted for the Tories as well as those that voted to leave. You see in that regard it is very much a two-way street.

It would be a two-way street if people had already been insulting those who voted for the Tories and Leave, but they usually haven't. It's usually in your opening post to a thread you've started, and I really don't remember left-leaning posters making threads and posts en masse insulting Tory or Leave voters to the extent that you do. That's not to say it doesn't happen, but you take it to a whole different level.