[Josy]

Originally Posted by Livia

You think I might need to read a shortened version of the rules? A little sarcastic, I feel, although you have little chance of being infracted, whatever you or any other moderator says to me.

Yes, yes, the mods to a great job. You don't get paid and you take all the crap in the world it's the stock answer. But you still do it. And why is that? You all get something out of it and that's good. But you still all interpret the rules differently and I have never, ever had a reply from the mods in query to an infraction. And sometimes those infractions are unwarranted and vindictive. Because mods are just a bunch of people like us who like some people and don't like others. I've seen it in the actual legal system, don't tell me it's not that way on a internet forum because is clearly is. I'm not even really talking about my own experiences here, but what I've seen an heard over the years.

And still no one moderates the moderators.

You just said yourself the rules should be shortened? My reply was to that comment.

Im also pretty sure ive replied to infraction queries from you but I will check this out later from my pc.

At the end of the day Livia, if you dont like the forum or the way its run you dont have to post, but you agreed to the rules when you signed up.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Josy

You just said yourself the rules should be shortened? My reply was to that comment.

Im also pretty sure ive replied to infraction queries from you but I will check this out later from my pc.

At the end of the day Livia, if you dont like the forum or the way its run you dont have to post, but you agreed to the rules when you signed up.

I was suggesting the rules be shorted so the mods can apply them a little more fairly. I understand them completely.

Yes have a look for those messages Josy, I'd be interested to know how many you find.

That's the trouble. I do like the forum. This place dragged me through some of the worst times of my life and I've met some people who I consider to be friends. And what you're saying is, if you don't like the way we do things, leave. Great way of dealing with people's concerns. Not an effective way though because SO many people have taken your advice to heart.

And still no one moderates the moderators.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I was suggesting the rules be shorted so the mods can apply them a little more fairly. I understand them completely.

Yes have a look for those messages Josy, I'd be interested to know how many you find.

That's the trouble. I do like the forum. This place dragged me through some of the worst times of my life and I've met some people who I consider to be friends. And what you're saying is, if you don't like the way we do things, leave. Great way of dealing with people's concerns. Not an effective way though because SO many people have taken your advice to heart.

And still no one moderates the moderators.

No im not saying that, but you do only pop up here these days to have a snipe at us, i dont see why anyone would bother doing that... the fact is the forum rules wont be changed to suit 1 person when most of the time they work well.

Not sure why you feel the need to keep repeating about the mods being moderated when its already been explained how mods are monitered on the forum.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Josy

No im not saying that, but you do only pop up here these days to have a snipe at us, i dont see why anyone would bother doing that... the fact is the forum rules wont be changed to suit 1 person when most of the time they work well.

Not sure why you feel the need to keep repeating about the mods being moderated when its already been explained how mods are monitered on the forum.

I've never read how the mods are moderated.

And no, I don't pop in to snipe at you. I pop in because I've been here a while, and despite the fact that a lot of my friends have given up and sodded off, stupidly, I still like this forum and the majority of people in it, despite all it's many flaws. And to be honest, Josy, there isn't much of a chance to speak about this stuff. And even when there is I'm told (and I'm paraphrasing) if you don't like it you can **** off.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I've never read how the mods are moderated.

And no, I don't pop in to snipe at you. I pop in because I've been here a while, and despite the fact that a lot of my friends have given up and sodded off, stupidly, I still like this forum and the majority of people in it, despite all it's many flaws. And to be honest, Josy, there isn't much of a chance to speak about this stuff. And even when there is I'm told (and I'm paraphrasing) if you don't like it you can **** off.

Im actually curious to know who ive told to leave the forum? since its not something in the habit of doing and who it is thats actually left the forum due to this.

No there isnt much of a chance to speak about it unless you contact someone through pm or the contact us option and actually detail what your grievance actually is, sniping in threads about mods and rules doesnt help anyone or solve anything.

Or like previously stated we sometimes do allow threads like this to remain open so members get can get things off thier chest.

Again you arent being told to leave or **** off or whatever else but the rules wont be changed for the sake of keeping one member from leaving the forum and if you dont like the rules or the way mods moderate then it really confuses me why you would stick around just to pop on and be nippy towards us every now and then yes youve said you have friends here but honestly any post ive seen from you lately can be described by the above, and im not the only one to pick up on it.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Josy

Im actually curious to know who ive told to leave the forum? since its not something in the habit of doing and who it is thats actually left the forum due to this.

No there isnt much of a chance to speak about it unless you contact someone through pm or the contact us option and actually detail what your grievance actually is, sniping in threads about mods and rules doesnt help anyone or solve anything.

Or like previously stated we sometimes do allow threads like this to remain open so members get can get things off thier chest.

Again you arent being told to leave or **** off or whatever else but the rules wont be changed for the sake of keeping one member from leaving the forum and if you dont like the rules or the way mods moderate then it really confuses me why you would stick around just to pop on and be nippy towards us every now and then yes youve said you have friends here but honestly any post ive seen from you lately can be described by the above, and im not the only one to pick up on it.

Well... firstly,

Originally Posted by Josy

At the end of the day Livia, if you dont like the forum or the way its run you dont have to post, but you agreed to the rules when you signed up.

That's where you said it. I did say I was paraphrasing.

Well, I'm flattered that I've been the subject of your conversations. If my posts have been snippy it's not my intention, maybe I just needed to be able to say something about it without being ignored or infracted for mentioning it in a post. I can honestly say that I haven't ever had that much interaction with you personally, Josy.

I'm not expecting your to change the rules, I never said that. On the whole they're very sensible. But like I say... people interpret them differently.

Anyway, I was finished because I'd said what I needed to. I had to reply to the points you made, and that Niamh made. I've leave it here.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Well... firstly,


That's where you said it. I did say I was paraphrasing.

Well, I'm flattered that I've been the subject of your conversations. If my posts have been snippy it's not my intention, maybe I just needed to be able to say something about it without being ignored or infracted for mentioning it in a post. I can honestly say that I haven't ever had that much interaction with you personally, Josy.

I'm not expecting your to change the rules, I never said that. On the whole they're very sensible. But like I say... people interpret them differently.

Anyway, I was finished because I'd said what I needed to. I had to reply to the points you made, and that Niamh made. I've leave it here.

I never told you to leave I said you dont have to post there's a difference, to which you replied that many have taken my advice previously which isnt true...

I also explained a lot of moderation stuff which you ignored yet when someone else posted saying pretty much the same you say it was helpful.