[Vicky.]

https://medium.com/@GappyTales/dear-...t-f20fbf6272cf

This is amazing too.

As it this, about the ridiculous topshop 'gender fluid' narcissist issue (many may not know about that, its fairly recent and hasn't been publicized much)

https://medium.com/@GappyTales/an-op...p-d7351ef932ab


Its so odd. I am a lefty in most ways, but I am totally against the left on this issue. But I am not aligned with the right either, as the right seem to accept it all too. Its Maria Miller trying to push the 'gender identity' rubbish, and May agrees with it all too.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

https://medium.com/@GappyTales/dear-...t-f20fbf6272cf

This is amazing too.

As it this, about the ridiculous topshop 'gender fluid' narcissist issue (many may not know about that, its fairly recent and hasn't been publicized much)

https://medium.com/@GappyTales/an-op...p-d7351ef932ab


Its so odd. I am a lefty in most ways, but I am totally against the left on this issue. But I am not aligned with the right either, as the right seem to accept it all too. Its Maria Miller trying to push the 'gender identity' rubbish, and May agrees with it all too.

Haven’t looked at those yet, but will. Just wanted to say I don’t believe May believes that for a minute - I think she is just trying to get the young on board and say what she thinks they want th hear. Not the way to go in my opinion.

Basically I just think we should all leave the kids alone on these issues, let them be kids, and decide on these things when they are older and have a better understanding, of it all.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Haven’t looked at those yet, but will. Just wanted to say I don’t believe May believes that for a minute - I think she is just trying to get the young on board and say what she thinks they want th hear. Not the way to go in my opinion.

Basically I just think we should all leave the kids alone on these issues, let them be kids, and decide on these things when they are older and have a better understanding, of it all.

I think (like many) May has not thought very deeply into the implications of this law that Miller is trying to pass through and still sees this as a kind of...extension of gay rights thing. And who would argue against gay rights? Except its nothing to do with gay rights at all, and infact the ideology in itself is deeply homophobic and dragging gender questioning kids into it...is homophobic also as most of these gender questioning kids are simply gay but either do not understand this yet, or have internalized homophobia. And reconcile with themselves once through puberty once their brains have developed properly. IF they are left alone instead of put on chemo drugs. When puberty is blocked, essential brain development does not happen and as such, these kids jeep thinking they are trans rather than just accepting they are gay.

Its a sorry state of affairs really when no questions are allowed to be asked, especially when discussing the welfare of kids.

A Tory MP recently managed to get a talk in parliament where people were allowed to give the opposite view to the 'accepted' one. Its quite long, but if you are bored at some stage, its well worth a read.

https://www.david-davies.org.uk/site...20Concerns.pdf

Gives opinions from a variety of people, including a transsexual woman with concerns about 'self identification'

[jet]

I know very little about the subject you have talked at some length about here Vicky, and I have found your input very informative and interesting.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jet

I know very little about the subject you have talked at some length about here Vicky, and I have found your input very informative and interesting.

Most people know very little of it as its all been kept fairly hushed until recently. And even now its not being publicized well at all. just the odd report of transacticists physically attacking people who oppose parts of the ideology, and narcissistic arseholes like Travis who feel 'neither male nor female' and expect to change with teen girls because of this :S

This is no longer about 'born in the wrong body'. To even say the phrase 'born in the wrong body' is hugely transphobic apparently.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

This is no longer about 'born in the wrong body'. To even say the phrase 'born in the wrong body' is hugely transphobic apparently.

A particularly virulent trans youtuber called Riley Dennis said something like "I'm not MtF, I was never male, i've always been a transwoman"

Rubbish like that just doesn't help transpeople, and even if we accept that traps have "always been" their preferred gender, to avoid shorthand like mtf or ftm is just pointless.