[Withano]

The job needed to go to someone though? Maybe they was the most qualified applicant? Men can learn about womens rights and laws etc too

You kinda plucked out something controversial that was said, and suggested they dont deserve their title cos of your views on what was said.. but you surely understand that just as many (probably more) agree with what they said and disagree with what the previous officer said? I dont think thats a valid reason to exclude them, what was said is controversial - nobody will please everybody on a topic like that.

If they have a job of womens officer, then they should be thinking of m2f women too - like thats just logical.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Withano

The job needed to go to someone though? Maybe he was the most qualified applicant? Men can learn about womens rights and laws etc too

You kinda plucked out something controversial that was said, and suggested he doesnt deserve his title cos of your views on what was said.. but you surely understand that just as many (probably more) agree with what he said and disagree with what the previous officer said? I dont think thats a valid reason to exclude him, what was said is controversial - nobody will please everybody on a topic like that.

If he has a job of womens officer, then he should be thinking of m2f women too - like thats just logical.

MtF is not a woman. A MtF is a transwoman. Large difference. And transwomen have their own issues, entirely separate from those of females. Given this person has already decided biology is irrelevant, he is clearly unfit to be anyone to represent female issues. Given you know, biology is the reason for female oppression and that.

Withano, I know you pride yourself on being liberal, but please read this, specifically directed at left wing men who think telling women that male people are also women is fine

https://medium.com/@GappyTales/dear-...t-f20fbf6272cf

Covers so many of the issues I see in this.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

MtF is not a woman. A MtF is a transwoman. Large difference. And transwomen have their own issues, entirely separate from those of females. Given this person has already decided biology is irrelevant, he is clearly unfit to be anyone to represent female issues.

But a transwomans officer isn't a job? Perhaps it should be, but until then....

Obviously when theyre discussing abortions, they wont be thinking about transwomen, but they also wont be thinking about infertile or celibate women either, so I'm not sure what the issue is. Not every woman will be directly relevant to every single aspect of the womens officers job description.. but thats okay. I think the idea is more that they will be covered somewhere, and there is a person who will work to think of them when and where they are concerned.

[Vicky.]

No surprise that men think this is fine. Sorry to stereotype but it is odd that it seems to be mainly men who see no issue with this.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Withano

Not every woman will be directly relevant to every single aspect of the womens officers job description.. but thats okay.

But no aspects of this job are relevant to a male?

No every aspect will not be relevant to every woman. But they will understand it more, you know, being of the class of women. Not the class of...men.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Withano

The job needed to go to someone though? Maybe they was the most qualified applicant? Men can learn about womens rights and laws etc too

You kinda plucked out something controversial that was said, and suggested they dont deserve their title cos of your views on what was said.. but you surely understand that just as many (probably more) agree with what they said and disagree with what the previous officer said? I dont think thats a valid reason to exclude them, what was said is controversial - nobody will please everybody on a topic like that.

If they have a job of womens officer, then they should be thinking of m2f women too - like thats just logical.

This tbh. Do we know anything about his competence in the role? Or is that not important?