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Old 18-01-2018, 11:31 AM #1
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All right, keep your hair on. Of course everyone wants that but people disagree on who is best placed to provide that in the future and clearly many don't have much faith in Corbyn to do that. He talks the talk, but whether he can walk the walk or not is questionable. He also has a dodgy history and some very extreme left-wing views which do not sit well again with many people.

It is not as black and white as you make out and is not just about providing for those with less. There are many aspects of politics to think about including as to which party won't completely devastate our futures, increase public debt and damage the long-term economy, not just the short-term. Labour have no better a history than the Tories in many respects so stop implying the man has no faults and is some kind of second-coming - to believe that really is a mental illness.
And that's why the far left is so dangerous. There is an excuse for every questionable action in Corbyn's past, and indeed, his present. They talk about making the country better for all... but that's not what they mean. They accuse others of cronyism when they are terribly guilty of it themselves ("Dame" Sharmishta Chakrabarti for instance...). There is a hatred of the rich, you only have to read through this forum to see that. Never mind the fact that they are employers and investors. I believe in the wisdom of crowds and I believe Corbyn will never get in. Luckily for me, if it does happen, I'll probably be living in the US... let's hope Trump has been impeached by then.
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And that's why the far left is so dangerous. There is an excuse for every questionable action in Corbyn's past, and indeed, his present. They talk about making the country better for all... but that's not what they mean. They accuse others of cronyism when they are terribly guilty of it themselves ("Dame" Sharmishta Chakrabarti for instance...). There is a hatred of the rich, you only have to read through this forum to see that. Never mind the fact that they are employers and investors. I believe in the wisdom of crowds and I believe Corbyn will never get in. Luckily for me, if it does happen, I'll probably be living in the US... let's hope Trump has been impeached by then.
Again you're alluding to something that is only ever hinted at it isn't a fact, there is actual evidence against say, Hunt (BskyB) cameron ( phone hacking) to name just two. You're also neglecting to say theat the current PM is up to her scrawny neck in this carrillion scandal as it appears the govt have a vested interest and are not simply 'customers'.

Where on the forum is there any indication to a 'hatred of the rich' and why have you brought this into the debate, are you suggesting that those who become rich by means of corrupt activity shouldn't be held to account?...

If you believe in the wisdom of crowds then you will be interested in the views of the 500,000+ Labour members then perhaps?
If you choose to live in Trumpville then fair play to you I hear Ms hopkins has plans to move there too, there of course is no questioning of his personal integrity.
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