[Ammi]

..yeah of course, she’s allowed her views which aren’t perhaps thought of as ‘fashionable’ but I think for me personally, views arent something that would follow a fashion/trend anyway...our views are things we carry through life and they can change, they’re not a fixed or a rigid thing...they’re changeable with our experiences etc, as well as the experiences of others we may know..and those things touch our lives as well, which then can often make us re-assess our views...as Jamie said, the indication I got from Ann in the house and then with her interview is that her views are formed, all boxed up and that she’s not open to anything that would go against those views, those views are all done and dusted.. so has basically stopped absorbing and learning/staying open and interested with some areas...I think that’s why Emma pushed it a bit and repeated..because what (..it felt to me..)...of the things she had ‘learned’ in the house and with the experience of being with so many different characters etc...were things like, oh I’ve had to get used to swearing and that house needed a swear
are box..or I become a Spice Girl, or they can all become a little rowdy at time...anyways, I can’t recall the specifics but ..there was no, well I lived with a transsexual, a gay drag queen, a lesbian, a model ...which I think Jess is but I’m not sure...and I learned about that 14yr old boy from Shane J and I hadn’t thought of some views from that perspective before...I just think Emma persisted and repeated because that’s maybe more how she was hoping the interview would be...

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah of course, she’s allowed her views which aren’t perhaps thought of as ‘fashionable’ but I think for me personally, views arent something that would follow a fashion/trend anyway...our views are things we carry through life and they can change, they’re not a fixed or a rigid thing...they’re changeable with our experiences etc, as well as the experiences of others we may know..and those things touch our lives as well, which then can often make us re-assess our views...as Jamie said, the indication I got from Ann in the house and then with her interview is that her views are formed, all boxed up and that she’s not open to anything that would go against those views, those views are all done and dusted.. so has basically stopped absorbing and learning/staying open and interested with some areas...I think that’s why Emma pushed it a bit and repeated..because what (..it felt to me..)...of the things she had ‘learned’ in the house and with the experience of being with so many different characters etc...were things like, oh I’ve had to get used to swearing and that house needed a swear
are box..or I become a Spice Girl, or they can all become a little rowdy at time...anyways, I can’t recall the specifics but ..there was no, well I lived with a transsexual, a gay drag queen, a lesbian, a model ...which I think Jess is but I’m not sure...and I learned about that 14yr old boy from Shane J and I hadn’t thought of some views from that perspective before...I just think Emma persisted and repeated because that’s maybe more how she was hoping the interview would be...

To be fair to Ann, what she actually said was that her views had been formed over years and that they were unlikely to be changed by a couple of conversations. I thought she made herself very clear, and most of us would respond the same if we had a detailed knowledge on a particular topic.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

To be fair to Ann, what she actually said was that her views had been formed over years and that they were unlikely to be changed by a couple of conversations. I thought she made herself very clear, and most of us would respond the same if we had a detailed knowledge on a particular topic.

...thing is though, sometimes it can only take one conversation or one small thing even, to set those thoughts in motion and feel hmmm....those undiscovered thoughts that can create reassessments in our views...I agree, that if ‘years’ were an essential for a ‘forming’ to be fixed, then that would obviously be something to be considered as well...but that time is really not an essential at all.../...for me, either in the house or in her interview, with some beliefs and some views..Ann hasn’t given any indication of any openness to her ‘forming’...any possible changeability about it...

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Originally Posted by Ammi

...thing is though, sometimes it can only take one conversation or one small thing even, to set those thoughts in motion and feel hmmm....those undiscovered thoughts that can create reassessments in our views...I agree, that if ‘years’ were an essential for a ‘forming’ to be fixed, then that would obviously be something to be considered as well...but that time is really not an essential at all.../...for me, either in the house or in her interview, with some beliefs and some views..Ann hasn’t given any indication of any openness to her ‘forming’...any possible changeability about it...

Why do you think that is?

Reasoned discussions may one day have an impact.

Banging it into ones head with a sledgehammer will have the opposite

Trying to make someone say something so they become vilified won't change them.

Ganging up on them won't change them

Huddling in groups badmouthing them won't change them.