[Oliver_W]

I wouldn't call myself a feminist by "today's standards". I mean, of course I believe in equality for both genders, but when Modern Feminism(tm) thinks equally qualified men and women get paid differently for doing the same work+same hours, focus on issues which don't matter like how men sit instead of real issues, and ally themselves with islam, it's hard to take it seriously.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I wouldn't call myself a feminist by "today's standards". I mean, of course I believe in equality for both genders, but when Modern Feminism(tm) thinks equally qualified men and women get paid differently for doing the same work+same hours, focus on issues which don't matter like how men sit instead of real issues, and ally themselves with islam, it's hard to take it seriously.

I agree with this; I have little time for "popular modern-day feminism" because it's reactionary and not evidence-based... it's a lot of people jabbering about things they've heard other people say as if it's hard fact. Which makes it pretty worthless.

"Women get paid 9% less than men for the same job!!"
"How do you know?"
"I read it on Facebook yesterday."
"Do you have a link to ANY actual official stats that back up this claim?"
"NO and you are SEXIST for even asking."


It drives me nuts. Give me a topic that can actually be debated, a problem that can actually be studied and addressed, and I'm all for it. If you've got little more than "Stuff is bad and it's bad that stuff is bad, and it's even worse that you won't join me in complaining about the bad stuff!!" then I just... can't.

Have a real, tangible, evidence based issue and want to find ways to address that issue? Great!

Just feeling peeved and want to rant and everyone to feel angry and / or guilty along with you but with no actual utility or positive end goal? No I'm not really interested I'm afraid.