[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Like I said, if someone finds a view racist and they can explain why then it should be allowed because that is adding to the discussion, calling people remoaners and snowflakes only serves to bring a discussion to a screeching halt.

That is your opinion not fact. So if someone finds someone’s view snowflakey or hard left but give an explanation why that is okay? You are not willing to change your stance one iota. Nothing will change clearly.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

So if someone finds someone’s view snowflakey or hard left but give an explanation why that is okay?

There's other words you can use, snowflake is just an insult through and through. It'd be like saying 'you can call people stupid or ugly, just as long as you explain why.'

Thinking that someone's post is racist, in itself, is not an insult, especially if they explain why.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

There's other words you can use, snowflake is just an insult through and through. It'd be like saying 'you can call people stupid or ugly, just as long as you explain why.'

Thinking that someone's post is racist, in itself, is not an insult, especially if they explain why.

Racist is an insult through and through. It is not for you to state what is and isn’t insulting and that is half the problem. People clearly do find it insulting but you think you know best and can insult people that way despite them not having made any reference to skin colour - you just interpret it in a hysterical way and try to label people based on that premise.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Racist is an insult through and through. It is not for you to state what is and isn’t insulting and that is half the problem. People clearly do find it insulting but you think you know best and can insult people that way despite them not having made any reference to skin colour - you just interpret it in a hysterical way and try to label people based on that premise.

Okay, let's see it from the other perspective, you prevent people from finding things racist and voicing but at the same time if someone's misogynistic or says something about the right then you can't voice your disapproval of what they are saying because if you're going to prevent people from being allowed to say that they believe something is racist then you better believe the same rules will apply to issues you care about as well.

It doesn't work because what you essentially want to do is neuter someone's right to reply, you can use a different word to snowflake and still say the same thing but you can't do the same if you find something racist and if someone finds something racist or sexist or homophobic then why can't they say so as long as it's not a one line response or done as an insult?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

So if someone finds someone’s view snowflakey or hard left but give an explanation why that is okay?

"snowflakey" isn't an opinion though, it's a silly jibe.

What you are basically saying when you say "they are snowflakes!" is;

"In my opinion, those people are being too sensitive"

... And the latter would be totally fine to say. You can see the difference, surely.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"snowflakey" isn't an opinion though, it's a silly jibe.

What you are basically saying when you say "they are snowflakes!" is;

"In my opinion, those people are being too sensitive"

... And the latter would be totally fine to say. You can see the difference, surely.

Racist may have a valid meaning but is also used as a silly jibe - you honestly think you can say it isn’t.

I have been called racist based on my opposition to mass migration and/or Burkha wearing on many occasions by the very same people who claim it isn’t used to insult or shut-down when it clearly is - long before the flag-waving of the Muslim mother and son who had to wash dishes thread.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Racist may have a valid meaning but is also used as a silly jibe - you honestly think you can say it isn’t.

I have been called racist based on my opposition to mass migration and/or Burkha wearing on many occasions by the very same people who claim it isn’t used to insult or shut-down when it clearly is - long before the flag-waving of the Muslim mother and son who had to wash dishes thread.

While snowflake can ONLY be used as a jibe, it's not a valid comparison.