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Originally Posted by Ammi

..but isn’t that the ‘vogue’ of society atm...to ‘judge cultures by our own’...and to ‘judge’ what is and what is not needed ‘by our own’...what isn’t needed (imo..)...is a leader who absolutely in his judgement, supports, rather than addresses the deaths in his country that may have been avoided...those 17 young people who have lost their lives, may have not wished for any type of ‘gun freedom’ but they and their families have paid very, very dearly for the ease of control which had been forced on them...

More people were killed in the Manchester arena massacre and there wasn't a gun in sight, he used a bomb, bombs are illeagal, but that didn't stop him, They were killed by a lunatic criminal.

86 people were killed in Nice when a truck drove into people, trucks are legal in France, did you call for this deadly weapon to be made illeagal? They were killed by a lunatic criminal.

And these children were also killed by a lunatic criminal.


A far better argument would be, better security in schools. Give jobs to veterans and ex police as security roaming the school corridors. Teachers armed and trained. Just that would prevent anybody from even attempting doing this sort of thing in the first place. The alternative is try and take the peoples guns of them, and you'll get civil war.