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Old 01-03-2018, 09:52 PM #1
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And you sound very sanctimonious, it's ok for you to bleat about the yoof and their perceived flaws but you have no idea of the issues they face today that past generations didn't have to deal with. There is much greater pressure now due to increased financial and economic changes.

Who reaps the rewards of education?....Society! The economy
It's dearer now to rent than buy, and who can survive on apprentice wages.. do you know what apprenticeships pay?

I'm sorry but as usual you post just smacks of an 'I'm alright jack' mentality you haven't given on thought to the changing educational or employment structures in the UK it's just one long bleat void of any logic or reason.
Talking of bleats - quite your forte!

As for apprenticeships - read the post properly - I said once qualified. If training in a valid skill you can earn a decent salary ONCE QULIFIED. Pay for your own education and buy your house - but don’t expect others to pay for it.

Besides you’e A hard left socialist aren’t - people aren’t supposed to own their own homes. They are all supposed to be the same, think the same and have the same. Owning one’s own Home that was paid for off the backs of others is very un-Corbynite Labour. Surely not another case of not practising what one preaches.

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Talking of bleats - quite your forte!

As for apprenticeships - read the post properly - I said once qualified. If training in a valid skill you can earn a decent salary ONCE QULIFIED. Pay for your own education and buy your house - but don’t expect others to pay for it.
And what do you live on till you're qualified in this little utopia you have constructed in your fevered imaginings?
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And what do you live on till you're qualified in this little utopia you have constructed in your fevered imaginings?
Others do it. Most still live at home as who the hell can afford their own home at that age.
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I think the golden rule is still a moral consensus that most of the world still agrees with.
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Talking of bleats - quite your forte!

As for apprenticeships - read the post properly - I said once qualified. If training in a valid skill you can earn a decent salary ONCE QULIFIED. Pay for your own education and buy your house - but don’t expect others to pay for it.

Besides you’e A hard left socialist aren’t - people aren’t supposed to own their own homes. They are all supposed to be the same, think the same and have the same. Owning one’s own Home that was paid for off the backs of others is very un-Corbynite Labour. Surely not another case of not practising what one preaches.
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Others do it. Most still live at home as who the hell can afford their own home at that age.
And... the ones who aren't lucky enough to come from a wealthy family and can't afford uni/higher education should just live at home forever?

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And what do you live on till you're qualified in this little utopia you have constructed in your fevered imaginings?
In my generation most people lived at home while doing their apprenticeship or working their first job, used a fair amount of their wages to save, save and save and then when qualified and earning better money, hey presto - they got on the property ladder with their first home and a good deposit. (And there was no help to buy schemes then.)
These things take time, patience and determination. If you want something badly enough, make it happen. Whingeing uses up energy you could be putting into realising your dreams.

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Your weekly wage i would imagine...not sure how much they get but if they dont smoke or take drugs they will get by.
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