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Old 19-08-2004, 12:56 PM #26
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I think it is a shame if it is true that Nadia wouldn't of won if she was just female! I can't believe there would be millions of biased people out there who would only vote Nadia to win because of her transgender! It upsets me that that is basically saying none of the people that voted her voted her for being a woman, they voted her being transexual!

I can't believe that! I still feel she won because of her personality, a lot of people thought she was entertaining, I for one thought she was entertaining and only ever saw her as a female, that is why she got my vote, not because she use to be a man!
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totally agree, the transgender thing was abit of a shock on the first night, after that she was all woman, it was never something i thought about after that. she won due to her personality, a thing the jc's find hard to swallow, but then again what would they know about personality, jason forgot his, ahmed was a nutter, victor borrowed puff daddys and stu couldnt even string a sentence together!
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Nadia and Victor were the only entertainment people in the house.
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Nadia had no story line evolving around her. Except her transexual status..There is no way in a million months of Sundays that she could have won on her personality. Millions of votes were cast that does not mean millions of people voted . Multiple voting by BB fanatics (Yes people spending their house keeping money to vote) has a major distorting influence on the apparent poularity of any particular housemate.

As others have mentioned Nadia was treated leaniently with what they didn't show or discuss. BB have and always will engineer the circumstances to get the best possible chance of the highest number of votes coming in. If that means editing a chosen one or two to look bad or look good then so be it as far as the producers are concerned.

As I said before Nadia could never win on her personality of having a prize winning silly laugh and nicotine tantrums. The novelty factor transexualism won BB. Not Nadia..... Let's face it of the four remaining there was not much of a choice......All the strong characters and personalities had been voted out leaving a habitual liar (Dan) a misery guts jason and eye candy for blokes but not most women (Shell) and finally the chimney pot herself.

Evididently the public have a fetish for smouldering volcanoes......
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Nadia had no story line evolving around her. Except her transexual status..There is no way in a million months of Sundays that she could have won on her personality. Millions of votes were cast that does not mean millions of people voted . Multiple voting by BB fanatics (Yes people spending their house keeping money to vote) has a major distorting influence on the apparent poularity of any particular housemate.

As others have mentioned Nadia was treated leaniently with what they didn't show or discuss. BB have and always will engineer the circumstances to get the best possible chance of the highest number of votes coming in. If that means editing a chosen one or two to look bad or look good then so be it as far as the producers are concerned.

As I said before Nadia could never win on her personality of having a prize winning silly laugh and nicotine tantrums. The novelty factor transexualism won BB. Not Nadia..... Let's face it of the four remaining there was not much of a choice......All the strong characters and personalities had been voted out leaving a habitual liar (Dan) a misery guts jason and eye candy for blokes but not most women (Shell) and finally the chimney pot herself.

Evididently the public have a fetish for smouldering volcanoes......
LOL i agree totally with what your saying.
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I have to admit to feeling sympathy for Jay. He was portrayed in a very bad light but equally he didnt really do himself any favours either. The 'live' feed isnt exactly live is it? we still have sound dips which can be quite lengthy and they still show you one camera looking at the hose pipe for ages at a time so I agree we could well have been manipulated in a way. I feel that Jay is a very vulnerable man who needs acceptance as much as Nadia does just goes about it in a different way.

As for meeting his mum I hope that it helps him to find the piece that he feels is missing - I just hope that he doesnt end up even more damaged in the process.

I feel that many people should have been taken to task over the 'fight night' and agree that Nadia should have been evicted there and then for violence to another housemate along with Emma and Victor but where would the show have been then.

I think that this is one of those arguments that everyone has an opinion about and no-one is wrong and no-one is right it is all down to thoughts and opinions.
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In OK today Michelle was saying how on the day of the Wedding they kept calling her in to ask strange questions, so she would have a miserable face, even though she said she was happy to play the role of chorister.

I would suggest that not only did C4 / Endemol engage in clever editing, but they manipulated the events just make sure they had suitable footage for their agenda.

Jason does have a point
(We saw this with the blatant attempts to crown Alex winner of BB3)
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An example of sly and unneeded editing is evident if you take a look at the inteview with Davina and Dan. When she was asking questions about his relationship with Jason in the house they kept cutting to a view of Jason who was still in the house but they cut to expressions on Jasons face that made it look as though Jason had heard what Dan had said about him.

If anyone used to watch the Diary room uncut on E4 they did a lot of the same on that show while a housemate was being questioned they would cut to show the person being talked about cutting to an expression that made it look as if they could hear the diary room private conversation...

Ask yourself why flashing still images are banned from advertisements..because they affect the subconcious mind and influence the potential buyer.

Suggestive editing as described above is a way of brain washing the subconcious mind just like flashing images can.....Big Brother really is Big brother.......
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its shocking isnt it?? i cant bear the thought of my mind being controlled by someone or somthing!
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