[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Because he hasn't personally gone anything it's always this guilt by association that is constantly referred to. Personally what has HE done?

Is actively supporting, sympathising and being great friends with the murderers of innocents 'nothing' in your eyes? Is letting antisemitism run rampant in his party for years and doing nothing about it 'nothing' in your eyes?

Is it all 'nothing' because he didn't plant a bomb himself? When he showed his own inner antisemitism, his excuse is 'I didn't know! I didn't do it'! 'I didn't look properly! So that's okay then, never mind that's its either a lie or it shows him as a bumbling idiot not fit to be a back bencher never mind lead the country.
The point is - its about who and what he encourages, condones, champions and lies about.

I find it pretty hard to believe that anyone who thinks terrorism or anti-Semitism is being used just to smear Corbyn actually takes terrorism or anti-Semitism seriously, or cares about the victims of either.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

Is actively supporting, sympathising and being great friends with the murderers of innocents 'nothing' in your eyes? Is letting antisemitism run rampant in his party for years and doing nothing about it 'nothing' in your eyes?

Is it all 'nothing' because he didn't plant a bomb himself? When he showed his own inner antisemitism, his excuse is 'I didn't know! I didn't do it'! 'I didn't look properly! So that's okay then, never mind that's its either a lie or it shows him as a bumbling idiot not fit to be a back bencher never mind lead the country.
The point is - its about who and what he encourages, condones, champions and lies about.

I find it pretty hard to believe that anyone who thinks terrorism or anti-Semitism is being weaponised just to attack Corbyn actually takes terrorism or anti-Semitism seriously, or cares about the victims of either.

So Corbyn is guilty by association, and now I am too?... Ok

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So Corbyn is guilty by association, and now I am too?... Ok

No, that implies an innocence and no involvement and that isn't the case with Corbyn as you well know.
You didn't answer the questions I put to you, which comes as no surprise.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

No, that implies an innocence and no involvement and that isn't the case with Corbyn as you well know.
You didn't answer the questions I put to you, which comes as no surprise.

he did do something, the Chakrabarti report, could he have done more? Perhaps... But he is not alone in having undesirables among the ranks. We have to be consistent in our condemnation. All parties face scrutiny on this topic it can not be used as a club to beat one person within one party.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

he did do something, the Chakrabarti report, could he have done more? Perhaps... But he is not alone in having undesirables among the ranks. We have to be consistent in our condemnation. All parties face scrutiny on this topic it can not be used as a club to beat one person within one party.

That report was 2 years ago - and the antisemitism in the Labour party is worse than ever - and all you can say is 'perhaps' he could have done more...o...kay.
That one person within one party is the leader of the party. If you can find me examples of May belonging to antisemitic facebook groups and condoning antisemitic murals I'll condemn her too.
If that was the case would you be making the pathetic excuses for her that you make for Corbyn?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

That report was 2 years ago - and the antisemitism in the Labour party is worse than ever - and all you can say is 'perhaps' he could have done more...o...kay.
That one person within one party is the leader of the party. If you can find me examples of May belonging to antisemitic facebook groups and condoning antisemitic murals I'll condemn her too.
If that was the case would you be making the pathetic excuses for her that you make for Corbyn?

I appreciate that antisemitism is the topic yet it is not the only form of abuse that infests our political system is it? Why must we ignore one to focus entirely on another?...

Define 'worse than ever' Worse than when... did it not exist prior to Corbyn becoming leader, in any party?

We have antisemitism in the UK, it is confined to comments, tweets , FB comments and this ill considered mural.
Compare that to the antisemitism across Europe and America.... There is no comparison is there, why are we not focusing on the very real threat from the far right?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

he did do something, the Chakrabarti report, could he have done more? Perhaps... But he is not alone in having undesirables among the ranks. We have to be consistent in our condemnation. All parties face scrutiny on this topic it can not be used as a club to beat one person within one party.

The Chakrabati report cannot be taken seriously, looking at the volume of claims since that pantomime,and especially as she was rewarded with a peerage immediately after. And they accuse Blair of cronyism!

[Crimson Dynamo]

"This is deliberately baiting the mainstream Jewish community days after they pleaded with him to tackle antisemitism. And he must know that meeting them now will give his members the message that the group’s extreme views are ok. Irresponsible and dangerous"

John Woodcock MP on Corbyns meeting with Alt-Left group Jewdas

[bots]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"This is deliberately baiting the mainstream Jewish community days after they pleaded with him to tackle antisemitism. And he must know that meeting them now will give his members the message that the group’s extreme views are ok. Irresponsible and dangerous"

John Woodcock MP on Corbyns meeting with Alt-Left group Jewdas

He is either completely stupid or he is sticking a finger up at those he has pledged to appease. I favour the latter because he has constantly stuck a finger up at people throughout his career and chosen to align himself with undesirables on countless occasions. This is nothing new for him. I'm happy for him to continue on his current course and let the voters decide what they think of him when the time comes

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

The Chakrabati report cannot be taken seriously, looking at the volume of claims since that pantomime,and especially as she was rewarded with a peerage immediately after. And they accuse Blair of cronyism!

Why can't it, what don't you agree with it?...She did very good work it deserves recognition, I suppose all the tory accolades dished out to donors are equally as deserving?
I could list them if you like...Alphabetically.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So Corbyn is guilty by association, and now I am too?... Ok

You side stepped this question so I'll repeat it...

Is actively supporting, sympathising and being great friends with the murderers of innocents 'nothing' in your eyes?

Is it all 'nothing' because he didn't plant a bomb himself?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

You side stepped this question so I'll repeat it...

Is actively supporting, sympathising and being great friends with the murderers of innocents 'nothing' in your eyes?

Is it all 'nothing' because he didn't plant a bomb himself?

Like I said it was guilt by association, now it's gone from attending protests and sharing platforms to he was friends of murderers.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Like I said it was guilt by association, now it's gone from attending protests and sharing platforms to he was friends of murderers.

Don't pretend its the first you've heard of that Kizzy.

What exactly is your understanding of 'guilt by association'?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

Don't pretend its the first you've heard of that Kizzy.

What exactly is your understanding of 'guilt by association'?

Listen from 40mins in Johnathon from Finchley

Youtube video

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Listen from 40mins in Johnathon from Finchley

Youtube video

I don't get the relevance to my question, which was ' what is your understanding of 'guilt by association' (referring to his support of terrorists.)