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Well there comes a time when so many accusations and so much evidence appears that it can’t just be excused away by loyal fans.You don’t have to ignore all negatives just because you voted for someone.
I will openly admit that i was wrong when i ticked that Labour box in the last GE.We all make mistakes.
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Well there comes a time when so many accusations and so much evidence appears that it can’t just be excused away by loyal fans.You don’t have to ignore all negatives just because you voted for someone.
I will openly admit that i was wrong when i ticked that Labour box in the last GE.We all make mistakes.
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Jeremy Corbyn has been plunged into a new anti-Semitism row with Labour MPs after attending an event with members of a left-wing group hostile to mainstream Jewish organisations.

The Labour leader's office confirmed he attended a gathering in his Islington North constituency organised by a radical group called Jewdas to mark the Jewish feast day of Seder.

His attendance at the event was immediately condemned by Labour MPs and came only hours after he said in a TV interview he would not tolerate any anti-Semitism in the party.

But Jewdas has been attacked by Labour MPs after criticising last week's Parliament Square demonstration against anti-Semitism in Labour, which was attended by dozens of MPs of all parties.

The group said allegations linking Mr Corbyn to anti-Semitism were "the work of cynical manipulations by people whose express loyalty is to the Conservative Party and the right wing of the Labour Party".

Condemning Mr Corbyn for attending the Jewdas gathering, Labour MP John Woodcock tweeted: "This is deliberately baiting the mainstream Jewish community days after they pleaded with him to tackle anti-Semitism.

"And he must know that meeting them now will give his members the message that the group's extreme views are OK. Irresponsible and dangerous."

Another Labour MP, Angela Smith, tweeted: "Corbyn's attendance at the Jewdas Seder reads as a blatant dismissal of the case made for tackling anti-Semitism in Labour. #Enoughis Enough."

Mr Corbyn was also criticised by the Campaign Against Antisemitism.

Its chairman Gideon Falter said: "Given the anti-Semitism crisis engulfing the Labour Party, there is absolutely no way that Mr Corbyn can claim that this too was an oversight.

"Following the events of the past few weeks and indeed the past three years, this is a very clear two fingered salute at mainstream British Jewry.

"It is hard to imagine how this duplicitous man can claim to be remedying anti-Semitism within the Labour Party.

"The party must consider the message that is sent to British Jews and other minorities by him remaining as leader."
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Jeremy Corbyn has been plunged into a new anti-Semitism row with Labour MPs after attending an event with members of a left-wing group hostile to mainstream Jewish organisations.

The Labour leader's office confirmed he attended a gathering in his Islington North constituency organised by a radical group called Jewdas to mark the Jewish feast day of Seder.

His attendance at the event was immediately condemned by Labour MPs and came only hours after he said in a TV interview he would not tolerate any anti-Semitism in the party.

But Jewdas has been attacked by Labour MPs after criticising last week's Parliament Square demonstration against anti-Semitism in Labour, which was attended by dozens of MPs of all parties.

The group said allegations linking Mr Corbyn to anti-Semitism were "the work of cynical manipulations by people whose express loyalty is to the Conservative Party and the right wing of the Labour Party".

Condemning Mr Corbyn for attending the Jewdas gathering, Labour MP John Woodcock tweeted: "This is deliberately baiting the mainstream Jewish community days after they pleaded with him to tackle anti-Semitism.

"And he must know that meeting them now will give his members the message that the group's extreme views are OK. Irresponsible and dangerous."

Another Labour MP, Angela Smith, tweeted: "Corbyn's attendance at the Jewdas Seder reads as a blatant dismissal of the case made for tackling anti-Semitism in Labour. #Enoughis Enough."

Mr Corbyn was also criticised by the Campaign Against Antisemitism.

Its chairman Gideon Falter said: "Given the anti-Semitism crisis engulfing the Labour Party, there is absolutely no way that Mr Corbyn can claim that this too was an oversight.

"Following the events of the past few weeks and indeed the past three years, this is a very clear two fingered salute at mainstream British Jewry.

"It is hard to imagine how this duplicitous man can claim to be remedying anti-Semitism within the Labour Party.

"The party must consider the message that is sent to British Jews and other minorities by him remaining as leader."
I rest my case.. this is now less about the Jewish community and what their feelings are... (Jewdas being a Jewish group) it is now an entirely politicised move to oust the Labour leader.


'Jewdas said: “What has happened over the last week is anything but an attempt to address antisemitism. It is the work of cynical manipulations by people whose express loyalty is to the Conservative Party and the right wing of the Labour Party. It is a malicious ploy to remove the leader of the Opposition and put a stop to the possibility of a socialist government.”

They are bang on right.
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I rest my case.. this is now less about the Jewish community and what their feelings are... (Jewdas being a Jewish group) it is now an entirely politicised move to oust the Labour leader.


'Jewdas said: “What has happened over the last week is anything but an attempt to address antisemitism. It is the work of cynical manipulations by people whose express loyalty is to the Conservative Party and the right wing of the Labour Party. It is a malicious ploy to remove the leader of the Opposition and put a stop to the possibility of a socialist government.”

They are bang on right.
Jewdas is a Jewish diaspora group based in London. It describes itself as a "radical' and is described by The Jewish Chronicle as a "Jewish diaspora group, known for its far-left anti-Zionism." It has a satirical-communal website and stages events in London and elsewhere. It is a secretive organisation based upon anarchistic lines

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Jewdas is a Jewish diaspora group based in London. It describes itself as a "radical' and is described by The Jewish Chronicle as a "Jewish diaspora group, known for its far-left anti-Zionism." It has a satirical-communal website and stages events in London and elsewhere. It is a secretive organisation based upon anarchistic lines

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Totally correct LT.

They are NOT representative of ordinary Jews or mainstream Jewish organisations and are fanatically anti-Israel, and, if anything, are even not-so-covertly anti-Semitic in essence.

Even the name - Jewdas - is a glaring pun on Judas.

Corbyn's very public affiliation with them is nothing more than an arrogant and cynical 'two fingers' gesture to those who are urging him to rectify the rampant anti-Semitism within the nest of anti-Patriotic, anti-Democratic, Britain-Detesting, Treacherous Vipers which was ONCE the great British Labour Party.
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Totally correct LT.

They are NOT representative of ordinary Jews or mainstream Jewish organisations and are fanatically anti-Israel, and, if anything, are even not-so-covertly anti-Semitic in essence.

Even the name - Jewdas - is a glaring pun on Judas.

Corbyn's very public affiliation with them is nothing more than an arrogant and cynical 'two fingers' gesture to those who are urging him to rectify the rampant anti-Semitism within the nest of anti-Patriotic, anti-Democratic, Britain-Detesting, Treacherous Vipers which was ONCE the great British Labour Party.
So Jews are good people providing they are the sort of Jews you have a political affiliation with.

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Totally correct LT.

They are NOT representative of ordinary Jews or mainstream Jewish organisations and are fanatically anti-Israel, and, if anything, are even not-so-covertly anti-Semitic in essence.

Even the name - Jewdas - is a glaring pun on Judas.

Corbyn's very public affiliation with them is nothing more than an arrogant and cynical 'two fingers' gesture to those who are urging him to rectify the rampant anti-Semitism within the nest of anti-Patriotic, anti-Democratic, Britain-Detesting, Treacherous Vipers which was ONCE the great British Labour Party.
Well well, antisemitic Jews now.... The mind boggles!
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Jewdas is a Jewish diaspora group based in London. It describes itself as a "radical' and is described by The Jewish Chronicle as a "Jewish diaspora group, known for its far-left anti-Zionism." It has a satirical-communal website and stages events in London and elsewhere. It is a secretive organisation based upon anarchistic lines

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So this Jewish group isn't Jewish enough for you, or too 'radical' (left wing) not 'moderate' (right wing) enough?

Now the knives are out for the Jewish left too then it seems?.. That appears to me both shameful AND antisemitic.
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