[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah Smudgie is actually the worst Cherie...mind you I think she has a golden touch or something because I report her daily and she’s still here as cheeky as ever...

...seriously though...many often seem to say ‘I don’t tend to report’...which I rarely do either so I’m equally guilty of that...but then there’s also ‘why does it feel inconsistent when that person said and was equally wrong etc’...when that might have a bearing on that...

There are certain people who deliberately goad though Ammi,just so they can report , these are the ones I try to avoid and I've done ok haven't had a ban for a long time other than yesterday, but sometimes I just think sod it,lol

[jet]

Originally Posted by Ammi

....hmmm, but then if you don’t personally report posts, Jet...but others may do with a post of yours for instance....does that not go in some way to explain what is felt to be ‘inconsistancy’...it could be more which posts are reported while others aren’t..?...

I've only had a few infractions so it doesn't really bother me Ammi, I accept them if fair. There was only the one last night leading to the ban which I felt was unfair and heavy handed and I'm over it.
There are bigger issues unfortunately.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

....ooops, there she is...hang on, I’ll edit../..delete my post ...you creeping up on us Smudgie...

I must say, this is one of the best threads in a good while.
A lot has been explained how the system works.
Each and everyone of us can get a bit heated in a debate, it's just knowing where not to cross the line.
For me the line is crossed when it gets to slinging personal insults around or making snide remarks.

No exactly rocket science.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

i always feel quite intimidated in sd, lots of intelligent people

Don't worry Matthew, myself and The Truth have posted in that section, if we can then you'll do okay in there as you can't come off any worse.

I'll stop posting in the thread for a bit now, sorry guys.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I've definitely noticed it a bit more lately on the SD section, it's always been a place for debates/arguments, but I don't know it feels kinda like members really dislike each other on there which I've never felt like that before when visiting that section of the Forum.

I'm hoping that it's just me being OTT as I can be like that sometimes.

It's been this hostile on here before but back then everyone involved was just given lengthy bans and told to deal with it and it eventually stopped, there's too much pandering and tip toeing around certain members these days.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

There are certain people who deliberately goad though Ammi,just so they can report , these are the ones I try to avoid and I've done ok haven't had a ban for a long time other than yesterday, but sometimes I just think sod it,lol

Originally Posted by jet

I've only had a few infractions so it doesn't really bother me Ammi, I accept them if fair. There was only the one last night leading to the ban which I felt was unfair and heavy handed and I'm over it.
There are bigger issues unfortunately.

...I recall there was a ‘mass ban’ once before, which I think you were here for Kaz...the chat thread wars.....and Ben was accused of being a heavy handed mod as well...but it must be awful for a moderator when personal stuff is so continuous, endless and persistent as well...they’re only human as well and would get exasperated at times with us all...we can be quite difficult to ‘manage’ I think....

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by smudgie

I must say, this is one of the best threads in a good while.
A lot has been explained how the system works.
Each and everyone of us can get a bit heated in a debate, it's just knowing where not to cross the line.
For me the line is crossed when it gets to slinging personal insults around or making snide remarks.

No exactly rocket science.

..yeah I understand Smudgie and for me as well with the personal stuff...but people will get personal as well as that’s human nature in specific personalities and responses will be made also...it’s moderating it all I think is the tricky bit ...because we as members can log off or stop posting in a thread or whatever...we have choices which moderators don’t have when they have to make decisions or respond to reports etc...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah I understand Smudgie and for me as well with the personal stuff...but people will get personal as well as that’s human nature in specific personalities and responses will be made also...it’s moderating it all I think is the tricky bit ...because we as members can log off or stop posting in a thread or whatever...we have choices which moderators don’t have when they have to make decisions or respond to reports etc...

Most of the mods manage to respond in a fair and understanding way Ammi, I would have thought impartiality was a criteria for being a mod, it comes to something really when you are put off posting in a forum and feel intimidated. We might be able to log off and stop posting but members have feelings too and mods can make a choice as to how they respond to people,sorry but that's how I feel.No hard feelings here,just disappointment really.

[Vicky.]

I am closing this for now. I have like 200 posts or so that I need to catch up on and from a glance its gone pretty bad, with it being basically a witch hunt...was a nice convo for a while at least.

Might reopen in a sec but trying to do 236872346 things at once here so it might be a while

[Vicky.]

On second thoughts, reopening now, didnt realise other staff members had already been in talking about it all...and it does not look as bad actually now as it did at first glance

Ignore me

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Pete.

I think I speak for many when I say this drama is distracting from the mods installing a like button and quote notification feature

Important take away message

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

It's been this hostile on here before but back then everyone involved was just given lengthy bans and told to deal with it and it eventually stopped, there's too much pandering and tip toeing around certain members these days.

I know what you're saying, but even back a few years ago the debates had an element of fun about them.

Maybe the Forum misses members like Lostalex who would make the SD section more fun.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I know what you're saying, but even back a few years ago the debates had an element of fun about them.

Maybe the Forum misses members like Lostalex who would make the SD section more fun.

Whatever happened to him Mocky ?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

On second thoughts, reopening now, didnt realise other staff members had already been in talking about it all...and it does not look as bad actually now as it did at first glance

Ignore me

..yeah we usually do, you’re an awful mod, Vicky...very ignorable...

[Ammi]

.....

[Rob!]

Ammi causing drama?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Whatever happened to him Mocky ?

I don't know, did he get banned?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah we usually do, you’re an awful mod, Vicky...very ignorable...

Reported!

See, I'm practising this reporting stuff. I could get used to this.

[AnnieK]

I think its clear to see the trouble causers now......Miss Ammi and Miss Smudgie.....

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I think its clear to see the trouble causers now......Miss Ammi and Miss Smudgie.....

Working on their permabans as we speak!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I try to be an impartial on this forum as possible, mainly because at the end of the day...its a Big Brother Forum and I have enough **** in my real life without having to deal with beef on here. However, from the last couple of days my observations are:

1 - There is a definite pack mentality from all sides. The other day in the Anti-Semitic thread when it kicked off, it was reported in the chat threads as kicking off and then a mass influx of people came into the thread which inflamed it further leading to the bans. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion, in real life people stick up for their friends but the problem comes when it is obviously happening and then people only see it from the other side.

2. People take a real bashing on here - just recently Brillo has had numerous character assassinations and now Dezzy is getting it. A lot of the people who are here supporting Dezzy saying it shouldn't be happening (and I agree it shouldn't on a public forum) are people who either took part or watch in amusement at the Brillo bashing.

I don't know what people get out of it - borne from frustration maybe but there needs to be a line drawn as the toxicity is getting worse on here and it used to be such a great forum.

Oh was that the issue? there was the usual tirade of 'oi you can't say that to my fren' without the slightest interest in the topic of debate... Thought as much.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

....hmmm, but then if you don’t personally report posts, Jet...but others may do with a post of yours for instance....does that not go in some way to explain what is felt to be ‘inconsistancy’...it could be more which posts are reported while others aren’t..?...

I do I report insulting posts, and if the moderators agree then action is taken,
can't see any merit in taking abuse.
Of course then if someone gets banned there's the usual histrionics but I don't feel responsible in any way, if someone can't remain civil then they alone are accountable.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I do I report insulting posts, and if the moderators agree then action is taken,
can't see any merit in taking abuse.
Of course then if someone gets banned there's the usual histrionics but I don't feel responsible in any way, if someone can't remain civil then they alone are accountable.

And no one nowhere has disputed that

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

ould those edits/removals of specific posts etc be given a ‘one chance’ to the poster who made them to self edit or remove...like, what was ‘wrong’ with this post in terms of being insulting or personal to a member, you tell me..you go look, type thing, you go look at the ‘issue’ here and remove or self edit..?...could that be a possibility maybe...?...

I get where you are coming from, but the issue with this is that by the time the member chose to edit/delete, there will have been a lot of quoting generally...and maybe an argument will have sprung up about the edited bit and that...and its just not workable with how quickly threads can move on here.

...also

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

But its okay for Withano to call Chuff's complaints aggressive, insulting and rude?
But okay, point taken.

Exactly .......