[smudgie]

Yet another tragic event.
Reporting 3 killed and many injured as a car crashes into a crowd of people in Munster, Germany.
The driver has killed themself.

[Cherie]

Was this an accident or ...

[Oliver_W]

Another #VehicleOfPeace ?

Several people are dead after a vehicle collided with group of pedestrians in Munster, Germany.

German police have confirmed at least three people are dead and dozens injured around the Kiepenkerl statue in Munster's old town.

Citizens have been advised to avoid the area.

According to local media, a small truck drove into a seated group of people at a restaurant and there are unconfirmed reports that the driver might among the dead.

Several news agencies are quoting Munster police as saying "the driver has killed himself".

According to the Spiegel, German authorities are "assuming" the incident was an attack.

Rescue helicopters have been sent to the surrounding area, with the injured being taken to hospitals or cared for in a designated zone.
Germany's RP has quoted police saying they are "mourning for the victims and the injured".

"Fortunately so far we were always able to prevent attacks in advance, this time that hasn't happened," they are quoted saying.

Munster Police tweeted an appeal not to spread "rumours and misinformation".

[Eddie.]

Things like this make me lose faith in humanity...

[Beso]

I can see why they didnt drive all the way to europe..

[arista]

the 49 year old driver is dead
He shot himself

Spoiler:

German Police arrive


Typical Germany
not giving out data, there rule because of terrorists

https://news.sky.com/story/live-seve...rmany-11321201

[Crimson Dynamo]

well if he shot himself I think we can rule out accident?

[Barry.]

Ugh I hate this.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well if he shot himself I think we can rule out accident?

Yes Nutter or Terrorist
aged 49 they have said.

[Lostie!]

It's thoroughly depressing how ordinary these sort of stories have started to feel

[bots]

you would have thought by now that terrorists would have realised that running innocent people down doesn't achieve anything

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

you would have thought by now that terrorists would have realised that running innocent people down doesn't achieve anything

It achieves dead kaffir, which is their aim.

[Brillopad]

Another loser - the world is a better place without him.

[LaLaLand]

So awful

[Northern Monkey]

So,The question on everyones lips...



Muslim or no?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

So,The question on everyones lips...



Muslim or no?

I KNOW which horse in THAT race would carry MY 2 quid.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I KNOW which horse in THAT race would carry MY 2 quid.

Authorities have said there is no indication it is an Islamist attack.

The suspect's motive and exact identity still remains unclear, but German media reported he was a national with mental health problems.

(BBC News)

Shame, that two quid could have gone to good use

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by MB.

(BBC News)

Shame, that two quid could have gone to good use

Not a bad place to put your 2 quid in a country that let in a million ‘refugees’ some of which decided to go out on New Years Eve and sexually assault female party goers,Stab people on trains and killed twelve people at a Christmas Market.
The religion of peace would be a good bet even if not a winner this time.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Not a bad place to put your 2 quid in a country that let in a million ‘refugees’ some of which decided to go out on New Years Eve and sexually assault female party goers,Stab people on trains and killed twelve people at a Christmas Market.
The religion of peace would be a good bet even if not a winner this time.

It would indeed!

[Withano]

Interesting. Even when the terrorist is not Muslim, the entire religion is still a more relevant topic than the indivduals involved.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

So,The question on everyones lips...



Muslim or no?

Sounda more like ant mcparlane to me.

[kirklancaster]

It is no secret that I like a flutter on the 'gee-gees' now and then, and despite using a degree of what can only be described as 'intuition' when making my selections, like most punters, I do invariably rely on 'Form' to guide me.

It now seems as if this killer was a German with 'Far-right' interests, a criminal record for 'petty crimes', and a history of 'Mental Illness'. Munster police reportedly found a Kalashnikov rifle at the killer's home and other dodgy equipment.

However - and again this is pure speculation on my part - I believe that indirectly Merkel's 'Open Door' Immigration policies may STILL lie behind the attack.

There was a 'Demonstration' carried out by Kurdish Immigrants near the scene of the attack and the attack itself occurred on the anniversary of a similar attack in Stockholm where five people were killed and 14 injured after a stolen beer truck drove into a crowd last year.

Coming back to my '2 quid' bet, I may have lost my money this time but I blame the 'Form Book':

TERRORIST ATTACKS IN EUROPE IN THE PAST 4 YEARS

April 7, 2018 - A man drives a van into a group of people sitting outside a restaurant in the old city centre of Münster in Germany, killing several of them before taking his own life, police say, a year to the day after the Stockholm truck attack.

March 23, 2018 - A gunman kills three people in southwestern France after holding up a car, firing on police and taking hostages in a supermarket, screaming 'Allahu Akbar'. Security forces storm the building and kill him.

Aug 17, 2017 - A van ploughs into crowds in the heart of Barcelona, killing at least 13 people, a regional official says, in what police said they were treating as a terrorist attack.

June 3, 2017 - Three attackers ram a van into pedestrians on London Bridge then stab revellers in nearby bars, killing eight people and injuring at least 48. Islamic State says its militants are responsible.

May 22, 2017 - A suicide bomber kills 22 children and adults and wounds 59 at a packed concert hall in the English city of Manchester, as crowds began leaving a concert by U.S. singer Ariana Grande.

April 7, 2017 - A truck drives into a crowd on a shopping street and crashes into a department store in central Stockholm, killing five people and wounding 15 in what police call a terrorist attack.

March 22, 2017 - An attacker stabs a policeman close to the British parliament in London after a car ploughs into pedestrians on nearby Westminster Bridge. Six people die, including the assailant and the policeman he stabbed, and at least 20 are injured in what police call a 'marauding terrorist attack'.

Dec 19, 2016 - A truck ploughs into a crowded Christmas market in central Berlin, killing 12 people and injuring 48. German Chancellor Angela Merkel says authorities are assuming it was a terrorist attack.

July 26, 2016 - Two attackers kill a priest with a blade and seriously wound another hostage in a church in northern France before being shot dead by French police. French President Francois Hollande says the two hostage-takers had pledged allegiance to Islamic State.

July 24, 2016 - A Syrian man wounds 15 people when he blows himself up outside a music festival in Ansbach in southern Germany. Islamic State claims responsibility.

July 22, 2016 - An 18-year-old German-Iranian gunman apparently acting alone kills at least nine people in Munich. The teenager had no Islamist ties but was obsessed with mass killings. The attack was carried out on the fifth anniversary of twin attacks by Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik that killed 77 people.

July 18, 2016 - A 17-year-old Afghan refugee wielding an axe and a knife attacks passengers on a train in southern Germany, severely wounding four, before being shot dead by police. Islamic State claims responsibility.

July 14, 2016 - A gunman drives a heavy truck into a crowd celebrating Bastille Day in the French city of Nice, killing 86 people and injuring scores more in an attack claimed by Islamic State. The attacker is identified as a Tunisian-born Frenchman.

June 14, 2016 - A Frenchman of Moroccan origin stabs a police commander to death outside his home in a Paris suburb and kills his partner, who also worked for the police. The attacker told police negotiators during a siege that he was answering an appeal by Islamic State.

March 22, 2016 - Three Islamic State suicide bombers, all Belgian nationals, blow themselves up at Brussels airport and in a metro train in the Belgian capital, killing 32 people. Police find links with attacks in Paris the previous November.

Nov 13, 2015 - Paris is rocked by multiple, near simultaneous gun-and-bomb attacks on entertainment sites around the city, in which 130 people die and 368 are wounded. Islamic State claims responsibility. Two of the 10 known perpetrators were Belgian citizens and three others were French.

Jan 7-9, 2015 - Two Islamist militants break into an editorial meeting of satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo on Jan. 7 and rake it with bullets, killing 17. Another militant kills a policewoman the next day and takes hostages at a supermarket on Jan. 9, killing four before police shoot him dead.

May 24, 2014 - Four people are killed in a shooting at the Jewish Museum in central Brussels. The attacker was French national Mehdi Nemmouche, 29, who was subsequently arrested in Marseille, France. Extradited, he is awaiting trial in Belgium.

[Nicky91]

i don't think this is terrorism, maybe just some person gone crazy

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

It is no secret that I like a flutter on the 'gee-gees' now and then, and despite using a degree of what can only be described as 'intuition' when making my selections, like most punters, I do invariably rely on 'Form' to guide me.

It now seems as if this killer was a German with 'Far-right' interests, a criminal record for 'petty crimes', and a history of 'Mental Illness'. Munster police reportedly found a Kalashnikov rifle at the killer's home and other dodgy equipment.

However - and again this is pure speculation on my part - I believe that indirectly Merkel's 'Open Door' Immigration policies may STILL lie behind the attack.

There was a 'Demonstration' carried out by Kurdish Immigrants near the scene of the attack and the attack itself occurred on the anniversary of a similar attack in Stockholm where five people were killed and 14 injured after a stolen beer truck drove into a crowd last year.

Coming back to my '2 quid' bet, I may have lost my money this time but I blame the 'Form Book':

TERRORIST ATTACKS IN EUROPE IN THE PAST 4 YEARS

April 7, 2018 - A man drives a van into a group of people sitting outside a restaurant in the old city centre of Münster in Germany, killing several of them before taking his own life, police say, a year to the day after the Stockholm truck attack.

March 23, 2018 - A gunman kills three people in southwestern France after holding up a car, firing on police and taking hostages in a supermarket, screaming 'Allahu Akbar'. Security forces storm the building and kill him.

Aug 17, 2017 - A van ploughs into crowds in the heart of Barcelona, killing at least 13 people, a regional official says, in what police said they were treating as a terrorist attack.

June 3, 2017 - Three attackers ram a van into pedestrians on London Bridge then stab revellers in nearby bars, killing eight people and injuring at least 48. Islamic State says its militants are responsible.

May 22, 2017 - A suicide bomber kills 22 children and adults and wounds 59 at a packed concert hall in the English city of Manchester, as crowds began leaving a concert by U.S. singer Ariana Grande.

April 7, 2017 - A truck drives into a crowd on a shopping street and crashes into a department store in central Stockholm, killing five people and wounding 15 in what police call a terrorist attack.

March 22, 2017 - An attacker stabs a policeman close to the British parliament in London after a car ploughs into pedestrians on nearby Westminster Bridge. Six people die, including the assailant and the policeman he stabbed, and at least 20 are injured in what police call a 'marauding terrorist attack'.

Dec 19, 2016 - A truck ploughs into a crowded Christmas market in central Berlin, killing 12 people and injuring 48. German Chancellor Angela Merkel says authorities are assuming it was a terrorist attack.

July 26, 2016 - Two attackers kill a priest with a blade and seriously wound another hostage in a church in northern France before being shot dead by French police. French President Francois Hollande says the two hostage-takers had pledged allegiance to Islamic State.

July 24, 2016 - A Syrian man wounds 15 people when he blows himself up outside a music festival in Ansbach in southern Germany. Islamic State claims responsibility.

July 22, 2016 - An 18-year-old German-Iranian gunman apparently acting alone kills at least nine people in Munich. The teenager had no Islamist ties but was obsessed with mass killings. The attack was carried out on the fifth anniversary of twin attacks by Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik that killed 77 people.

July 18, 2016 - A 17-year-old Afghan refugee wielding an axe and a knife attacks passengers on a train in southern Germany, severely wounding four, before being shot dead by police. Islamic State claims responsibility.

July 14, 2016 - A gunman drives a heavy truck into a crowd celebrating Bastille Day in the French city of Nice, killing 86 people and injuring scores more in an attack claimed by Islamic State. The attacker is identified as a Tunisian-born Frenchman.

June 14, 2016 - A Frenchman of Moroccan origin stabs a police commander to death outside his home in a Paris suburb and kills his partner, who also worked for the police. The attacker told police negotiators during a siege that he was answering an appeal by Islamic State.

March 22, 2016 - Three Islamic State suicide bombers, all Belgian nationals, blow themselves up at Brussels airport and in a metro train in the Belgian capital, killing 32 people. Police find links with attacks in Paris the previous November.

Nov 13, 2015 - Paris is rocked by multiple, near simultaneous gun-and-bomb attacks on entertainment sites around the city, in which 130 people die and 368 are wounded. Islamic State claims responsibility. Two of the 10 known perpetrators were Belgian citizens and three others were French.

Jan 7-9, 2015 - Two Islamist militants break into an editorial meeting of satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo on Jan. 7 and rake it with bullets, killing 17. Another militant kills a policewoman the next day and takes hostages at a supermarket on Jan. 9, killing four before police shoot him dead.

May 24, 2014 - Four people are killed in a shooting at the Jewish Museum in central Brussels. The attacker was French national Mehdi Nemmouche, 29, who was subsequently arrested in Marseille, France. Extradited, he is awaiting trial in Belgium.

All those innocent deaths, people who would be alive today if Europe had not taken in so many undocumented migrants. How many more innocent deaths will there be before people realise it is too high a price to pay.

Those that died were all everyday people who had little or no say - not those that actually made the decisions. Well it is up to those ordinary everyday citizens to say no more - enough is enough!

[Livia]

This is the latest attack of choice for your Islamist terrorist. We've heard countless stories now of terrorists driving cars into crowds. So it's not a stretch of the imagination when you hear of an identical attack to immediately assume an Islamist is behind it. It's not a crime to leap immediately for the obvious. It doesn't make you anti-Muslim, or racist, or anything. And it really pisses me off when someone comes on the call everyone out on being racists when it is not the case.