[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

No-one said Jewdas were his only support. They're just a dodgy group for him to associate with, especially after refusing to meet with more mainstream Jewish groups.

You mean like the mainstream Jewish group that refused to meet Corbyn? Corbyn asked them for an audience, they declined.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

You mean like the mainstream Jewish group that refused to meet Corbyn? Corbyn asked them for an audience, they declined.

Even if every other Jewish group denied him, Jewdas wouldn't become an appropriate one to hang around with.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Even if every other Jewish group denied him, Jewdas wouldn't become an appropriate one to hang around with.

I guess you fully support Israel. Lets just leave it at that.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I guess you fully support Israel. Lets just leave it at that.

It doesn't just have to be about Israel. Wanting to burn down parliament and invoke full capitalism, while saying things like "**** the Queen and especially **** Prince Phillip" shows what kind of group they are.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

It doesn't just have to be about Israel. Wanting to burn down parliament and invoke full capitalism, while saying things like "**** the Queen and especially **** Prince Phillip" shows what kind of group they are.

Yes it is. It is all about Israel/Palestine.
I don't know who the numpties are who want to put an end to Israel or who want to burn down parliament and invoke full capitalism and I don't agree with anyone who wants to abandon our royal family, so lets forget a number of anarchists this group has attracted because a) they will never achieve anything other than a bigger divide and b) disinformation cuts two ways.
Instead, why don't we try looking at the wider issues.

One group of people want something very different than the other group. One sits to the Left, one sits to the Right. Under real democracy they both have a right to a voice but because of the powers of the Right, the Left have been silenced. Secret groups and some very open groups on the Left have grown massively in number over the past decade, especially youth groups in Israel. Why is this happening? what's caused it? should they be stopped? should we listen to what they have to say? all these questions should make for a good and reasonable discussion. Instead we just keep going round in the same old circles and getting nowhere.

[jet]

Why don't you make a thread on Israel/Palestine, Red? This thread is about anti - Semitism in the Labour party.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by jet

Why don't you make a thread on Israel/Palestine, Red? This thread is about anti - Semitism in the Labour party.

Yes it is but anti-Semitism has now been broadened out to the Jewish Left and the anti-Semitism accusations are all about Palestine/Israel. The whole foundations behind this subject is Palestine/Israel.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

You mean like the mainstream Jewish group that refused to meet Corbyn? Corbyn asked them for an audience, they declined.

and of course you know why?

they dont want to help an anti-Semitic with his PR/Spin to save face

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and of course you know why?

they dont want to help an anti-Semitic with his PR/Spin to save face

There you go again, keep dishing the dirt and calling the least anti-racist man in parliament anti-Semitic.

I don't think I've seen a single post from you on here that has any reasoning or thought. You don't join in other than to just pop up now and again to repeat the same old bollox.

[jet]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

There you go again, keep dishing the dirt and calling the least anti-racist man in parliament anti-Semitic.

I don't think I've seen a single post from you on here that has any reasoning or thought. You don't join in other than to just pop up now and again to repeat the same old bollox.

Reasoning and thought make no difference when people refuse to acknowledge reason and thought. You seem very angry, Red, could it be that underneath you know that Corbyn is the anti - Semitic supporter and terrorist supporter that he actually is but don't want to admit it to yourself? Or do support him for other reasons?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by jet

Reasoning and thought make no difference when people refuse to acknowledge reason and thought. You seem very angry, Red, could it be that underneath you know that Corbyn is the anti - Semitic supporter and terrorist supporter that he actually is but don't want to admit it to yourself? Or do support him for other reasons?

Funnily enough my father-in-law is staying with us at the moment and he keeps laughing at me because every time I come on here I'm ranting. I'm not angry, just frustrated. I'm so keen to have a really good discussion about the Left and the Right of these issues but it feels like a brick wall.

He suggested I'm frustrated on his behalf and I think he's right. I should leave this thread well alone because I'm allowing it to encroach on my every day life which is unhealthy.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Funnily enough my father-in-law is staying with us at the moment and he keeps laughing at me because every time I come on here I'm ranting. I'm not angry, just frustrated. I'm so keen to have a really good discussion about the Left and the Right of these issues but it feels like a brick wall.

He suggested I'm frustrated on his behalf and I think he's right. I should leave this thread well alone because I'm allowing it to encroach on my every day life which is unhealthy.

Wow, you must really love Corbyn if words on a screen can lead you to sperg on to the extent where even your family makes fun of you.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Funnily enough my father-in-law is staying with us at the moment and he keeps laughing at me because every time I come on here I'm ranting. I'm not angry, just frustrated. I'm so keen to have a really good discussion about the Left and the Right of these issues but it feels like a brick wall.

He suggested I'm frustrated on his behalf and I think he's right. I should leave this thread well alone because I'm allowing it to encroach on my every day life which is unhealthy.

But Red.... It feels like a brick wall to us that hold opposite views to you as well, because, DESPITE discussing/debating the Left and Right of these issues with you (even going beyond the parameters of the Thread topic to do so) YOU just blindly REFUSE to accept ANY viewpoint which DOES NOT AGREE with yours - no matter how WELL substantiated by HARD evidence those differing viewpoints are.

With ALL due respect, I believe that it is your obsessional devotion to Corbyn that is 'unhealthy'.

In my opinion anyway.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

But Red.... It feels like a brick wall to us that hold opposite views to you as well, because, DESPITE discussing/debating the Left and Right of these issues with you (even going beyond the parameters of the Thread topic to do so) YOU just blindly REFUSE to accept ANY viewpoint which DOES NOT AGREE with yours - no matter how WELL substantiated by HARD evidence those differing viewpoints are.

With ALL due respect, I believe that it is your obsessional devotion to Corbyn that is 'unhealthy'.

In my opinion anyway.

All you have as evidence are a few CAPITALS... And again you make unwarranted comments that people are 'obsessional' because they don't share your opinion.
It's not a debate, it's pushing how rude you can be to members with whom you disagree.