[Morgan.]

Zoey

I won't lie, I've warmed to Zoey recently, but she certainly doesn't deserve to go any further than this, in my opinion.
I'll start with why I like Zoey. Her interactions with everyone bar M*chael were cute. I'm not too fond of the Cameron friendship, but Gwen and Zoey were a cute friendship, and we got to see Zoey be a good friend, calming Gwen out of a panic attack. I also liked her chats with Duncan, it wasn't much and it centred mostly around M*chael but I think there was something there they could've utilised with how good and 'sweet' Zoey is and how Duncan is struggling with the fact he's perceived as nice. Just an idea.

But besides that? There's not much to like about her, in my opinion. And I won't lie, a lot of her problems stem from M*chael.

Before I detail M*chael, I'll start with a detail I noticed - Zoey says she "loves" 'oddballs' when Michael tells Zoey about his disorder. What's wrong with that? The fact she calls Dawn, who is a bit out of the ordinary yes, 'creepy', and also turns away Dakota's friendship because it's 'hazardous' to her health (and while I can understand what she meant with how hard Dakota hugged her, it's a tad ridiculous she couldn't have just spoke to Dakota and said "be careful when hugging me" instead of getting rid of one of the only friends she had in her life).

I don't want to detail much about her interactions with M*chael so I'll try and keep this light:
She felt entitled to him and for what reason? Yeah Mike showed some level of interest but no commitment, and got offended when Vito and Anne Maria made out. Is she allowed to be hurt? Absolutely, but the fact she told Anne Maria to 'lay off' him is a bit weird because Zoey and Mike weren't even dating.

Her character became heavily based around him. In fact, she became 'commando Zoey' in response to his 'necklace' breaking. How did she gain such athletic ability out of anger? I have no idea, but it's bull****. She suddenly had all this strength and skill and it carried through to All-Stars. It made no sense to me and felt like a lazy way to develop her.

Because in my opinion, she had little to no development. Ironically, I think I prefer her All-Stars appearance because she had a good friendship with Gwen and we got to see how okay she was without Mike. But then I also despise her appearance because of M*chael.

Duncan warned her of Mal. Izzy questioned who Mal was and Zoey heard, without Izzy being told about him. Alejandro called 'Mike' Mal. And did she listen to them? No, not until the penultimate episode when she found a video hidden by Alejandro of Mal's actions. Why did Zoey not truly listen and follow up on the words of three people who had never spoken to each other about 'Mal' yet all knew him? I will never know, but it made her unlikeable to me. She just came off as stupid.

Let's not forget how she risked her life to try and get 'Mike' to help her. Or how her first word in All-Stars was "Mike". Her character was too heavily based around M*chael, and in my opinion, a character isn't good if their story and personality depends too much on one person, and it doesn't help that I'm not a fan of M*chael.

It's a shame Zoey didn't live up to her stereotype. She could've been a cool, lonely, indie chick who was trying to find her feet and place in a relatively large group of people, feeling out of place while also trying to make friends. Maybe she could've been annoying, getting really excited talking about a local band she loves to a love interest, and said love interest validates her interests and takes an interest in her. Maybe Zoey could've realised she already was a great friend (see: calming Gwen after her anxiety attack) and didn't need to change, and she was fine with how quirky she was. I wouldn't have minded if it was obnoxious, in fact, I'd prefer it if it was. I'd rather Zoey have been annoying on her own merit than annoying because of her association with M*chael.

So yeah, I found Zoey was inconsistent in abilities, personality, and interactions. Outside of M*chael, she was nice! She was a good friend. But sadly an episode or two of her being friends with Gwen and chatting with Duncan cannot atone for how unbearable I found her for 2 seasons straight.

[Matthew.]

That Zoey sounds like BB19 Zoe

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

That Zoey sounds like BB19 Zoe

Nothing alike

[Morgan.]

Y'all stop getting banned huh

rileys brody writeup
Brody

Brody was.. nice. He was harmless yet super irrelevant, and completely unmemorable, which is why it's strange to think he actually WON Ridonculous Race. He was partnered with Geoff, who I'm not the biggest fan of, but I was surprised with how much I liked Brody (which still wasn't a lot but still.) He wouldn't be my choice to cut here, but considering Mont's tragic noms, he has to go. Bye.

[Epic.]

Can people stop saying the Surfer Dudes won RR? They didn't

This is why RileyH is banned

[Morgan.]

Leonard
It hurt to cut Leonard this early, because Leonard is the perfect example of comic relief done right. He didn't last long in either series he was in, he provided laughs an entertainment in all of his episodes, and idk he was just a good character. Unusual too, he had his unique elements like the wizard costume and the LARPing. He was harmless really.

[sleleen]

wait don’t reset our save and replaces some haven’t used yet

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by SlayBB

wait don’t reset our save and replaces some haven’t used yet

Yeah you'll just get an extra one

[Morgan.]

Just need Slay to write for Mickey, and Mont to write for Tyler, and then my next nominations are in

[sleleen]

sorry my write ups are so scabby so far there’s just not much to say yet in the characters I cut so far

[sleleen]

ok my write up for Mickey - I can’t really differentiate mickey from jay to be honest and I just found the whole everything going wrong thing to be a predictable gag, like in each episode you knew something would go wrong so I can’t write much about a character which I didn’t really find interesting, sorry

[sleleen]

mont do a tyler write up challenge

[montblanc]

60 - Tyler (Island, World Tour)



Tyler's pretty funny and I actually don't mind him but he's just never been a strong character. He's really only known for being our Lindsay's boyfriend, and even though they were cute, their relationship lacks substance. I kind of that thought when he'd be bought back for World Tour the writers would've done SOMETHING with him as he's not incapable of having a personality but he was literally just the same as in Island (with just more funny moments since he lasted longer). A lukewarm character!

He made me SCREAM during the dodgeball challenge!

[montblanc]

bye i didn't even think my noms were that bad

Carrie, Devin, Mickey, Miles, Tammy, Leonard, & Brody are all EASY cuts

[sleleen]

Originally Posted by montblanc

bye i didn't even think my noms were that bad

Carrie, Devin, Mickey, Miles, Tammy, Leonard, & Brody are all EASY cuts

sorry miles exists

[Epic.]

I can maybe see why you picked the last 5, but Carrie and Devin were huge contributors to making RR stand out as much as it did, and went way beyond the typical will they/won't they couple they were expected to be imo

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Epic.

I can maybe see why you picked the last 5, but Carrie and Devin were huge contributors to making RR stand out as much as it did, and went way beyond the typical will they/won't they couple they were expected to be imo

that maybe true but i still found them dull and tedious to watch

probably more of a personal opinion since i get bored of romances super quickly

[Morgan.]

Time for ma noms

[montblanc]

yaas morgan stir it up

[Epic.]

Are the save and replaces reset now?

[Epic.]

Save Jacques Cut Dakota!

[Epic.]

Originally Posted by Epic.

Save Jacques Cut Dakota!

54. Dakota


Such a relief to be getting this one over with. Being honest, I've been trying to come up with ways to get Dakota out for a while now. In my first noms I thought I could pull it off in the 5 popular vs 5 actually deserving to be out format I had, but not only did that backfire anyway but I'm pretty sure Dakota would've still been saved there. Then I was going to put her up in that save and replace but then I noticed ZOEY was still somehow in and had to save Carrie, and now I'm stuck cutting Dakota myself after not even having to nominate her .

It's a tragic case with Dakota because, while I was never as crazy about her as others were, she was nonetheless a pretty solid character as a human. Whiny, spoiled, self-entitled, but still vulnerable, lonely, and desperate for fame. I can see why so many said she was full of potential. But the episode in which she gets mutated is not only one of the worst of all time simply because of that happening, but it also completely ruined her character and suddenly she sucks! People always harp against the sudden mutations of Ezekiel or Dave's personality, but I always see Dakota get a free pass for some reason just because she was an okay character beforehand. But at least in the prior cases I mentioned, Ezekiel and Dave went on to serve really important functions in several episodes. Dakota got mutated as some sort of karma she never deserved in the first place, and really I'm only cutting her for how poor the writing of the whole thing is. It makes her a painfully below average character, and being feral wasn't funny when it happened to Ezekiel, and I'd argue it was even less funny when it happened to Dakota. Even as a human, I backtracked on whether she really was enjoyable at that point either, considering all of what seemed like development to her ultimately culminated in this hideous abomination that nobody asked for. And if we're still disregarding the whole Dakotazoid transformation, I don't like her relationship with Sam either. It gives the implication in the end that her becoming a hideous beast means that he finally feels comfortable going out with her??? That's so superficial, and with how short RoTI is, they only have Dakota end up liking him because he helps her with a few errands or listens to her when no one else would. Having said that, why not exploit that aspect of her personality? Don't villify her as someone deserving of becoming a mutant!

Sometimes I'm inclined to think Dakota is actually the most overrated character EVER, even more than the likes of Noah or Dawn, because she really was treated as one of the best of her season in spite of her being involved in one of the worst writing decisions of the show, which is why it gives me great satisfaction to be getting rid of her.

[sleleen]

save laurie cut rock!

[Epic.]

Someone save Spud c'mon

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Epic.

Someone save Spud c'mon

Why though