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Why? what makes you think that we in the EU would bow down or negotiate with an unelected induiviual ?He might command alot of power in the Uk..he is irrelavent to us.

Those who voted Brexit often complain that the MEP's are unelected...then move on to say Cummings will sort them out??
Who's all this we and us?
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Great. Now can you answer the question that I asked?
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Its all we hear....everyone is very angry, why aren't they back at work already?
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Its all we hear....everyone is very angry, why aren't they back at work already?
Everything happening in parliament at the moment just stinks of hypocrisy. I blame them all. The HoC could have asked for it not to be broken up over the holiday period to resolve all this .... but holidays are more important than fighting a no deal brexit
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Everything happening in parliament at the moment just stinks of hypocrisy. I blame them all. The HoC could have asked for it not to be broken up over the holiday period to resolve all this .... but holidays are more important than fighting a no deal brexit
Our government and opposition, and I include all parties, the Greens, the Lib Dems, everyone are nothing short of a joke, they should have taken a two week break and been back at work like every person would be if they had a crisis on their hands at work, I have nothing but the utmost contempt for all of them at this stage

just so easy isn't it to be interviewed from your front room saying how angry you are ...and to cap it all he says John Major is going to court to try and stop it...why aren't you ...sitting MP John McDonnell doing just that lol
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Our government and opposition, and I include all parties, the Greens, the Lib Dems, everyone are nothing short of a joke, they should have taken a two week break and been back at work like every person would be if they had a crisis on their hands at work, I have nothing but the utmost contempt for all of them at this stage

just so easy isn't it to be interviewed from your front room saying how angry you are ...and to cap it all he says John Major is going to court to try and stop it...why aren't you ...sitting MP John McDonnell doing just that lol
It's not a both sides issue though, is it?

I agree with the point that they should have been back at work regardless, as the leave date is 31st October.

Tusk told us not to waste this extension, and since then we've had a tory election and recess.

The path the tories are on now was rejected by every single one of them in the leadership run, and all of them spoke about how anti-democratic it was, so it's not something they really should have needed to plan for.

I agree there is blame across all parties for the state of where we are, but what the tories are doing now isn't normal, and shouldn't be treated as such. Gove on the Marr program point blankly refusing to say the government will follow the law if legislation is passed.

You can be on any side of brexit and know this isn't what any of us should be cheering on.
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Are you personally ok with them ignoring the law to make their own rules? They are not labour rules.

I seem to remember everyone screaming and crying about the fears of Corbyn's so-called communism, and yet here you are, openly supporting a fascist anti-democratic approach to government.
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Are you personally ok with them ignoring the law to make their own rules? They are not labour rules.

I seem to remember everyone screaming and crying about the fears of Corbyn's so-called communism, and yet here you are, openly supporting a fascist anti-democratic approach to government.

Lets see what happens on Tuesday

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But would you be ok with it? because Gove refused to say whether the government would follow the law, and you seemed to be saying that was the right thing to do. So again, should the tories ignore the law to give you a no-deal brexit (if that's where we get to)?
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But would you be ok with it? because Gove refused to say whether the government would follow the law, and you seemed to be saying that was the right thing to do. So again, should the tories ignore the law to give you a no-deal brexit (if that's where we get to)?
of course, tories and that Farage's Brexit Party want a no deal brexit as that is the only real ''leave means leave'' option for them

they want it, they should get it then and if it backfires on them, that our confirmations are proven correct that britain will struggle after no deal, well karma is a bitch then but you can't come crawling back to the EU, because OUT means OUT (if you guys can be smug with your leave means leave well we in EU can do the same then if you come back with tail between the legs)
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But would you be ok with it? because Gove refused to say whether the government would follow the law, and you seemed to be saying that was the right thing to do. So again, should the tories ignore the law to give you a no-deal brexit (if that's where we get to)?

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For a government minister to say they may not follow the law is astonishing. It is a coup then, pure and simple.
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For a government minister to say they may not follow the law is astonishing. It is a coup then, pure and simple.
It is both worrying and should be unacceptable.

Setting an even worse worrying precedent, no matter what make up of government is in power.

So is this what a leave vote meant as to take power back.
To hand it to one extreme grouping over all others.

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It is both worrying and should be unacceptable.

Setting an even worse worrying precedent, no matter what make up of government is in power.

So is this what a leave vote meant as to take power back.
To hand it to one extreme grouping over all others.
One day in not too distant future these people should actually face charges and go to prison.
It is depressing how low this country has fallen.
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One day in not too distant future these people should actually face charges and go to prison.
It is depressing how low this country has fallen.


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One day in not too distant future these people should actually face charges and go to prison.
It is depressing how low this country has fallen.
It's all very sad indeed how low it has, and seemingly still falling lower Twosugars.
I totally agree with that and it's a tragedy.
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