[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by JobsForTheBoys

Why would the culprit get rid of the pizza box if he didnt have any pizza?????

Hang about here... you were the one earlier on who was suggesting that he'd get rid of the pizza box because there would be finger prints on it (remember, bits of pizza fingerprints that I was finding hard to believe!)

[JobsForTheBoys]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Okay columbo. What happened to the pal of Jo's that was coming around on the Saturday to help Jo clean up the messy flat? (Actually...now I say that.... what indeed happened to that..... serious thought???) Did Jo cancel that arrangment? I can't actually recall reading / hearing anything about that. ?

The police will be witholding a lot of information from the public.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by JobsForTheBoys

I honestly dont think the pizza box went into the dustbin.

I can confirm with absolute certainty that it most definately was not placed in that bin or indeed, any other bin, by the cat.

[JobsForTheBoys]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Hang about here... you were the one earlier on who was suggesting that he'd get rid of the pizza box because there would be finger prints on it (remember, bits of pizza fingerprints that I was finding hard to believe!)

Yes, but if he never had any pizza why would he get rid of the box????????

Which means he must have had some.

Gimme a pint of what youve been drinking will ya.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by JobsForTheBoys

The police will be witholding a lot of information from the public.

If this person is not involved why not make mention of that .... they've done that with anyone else the think is not being considered for questioning.

Can you remember much being said about this person?

[JobsForTheBoys]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I can confirm with absolute certainty that it most definately was not placed in that bin or indeed, any other bin, by the cat.

I wonder if theyve checked the road (vergeside) to where she was found, or the quarry?

[JobsForTheBoys]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

If this person is not involved why not make mention of that .... they've done that with anyone else the think is not being considered for questioning.

Can you remember much being said about this person?

Which person are we talking about here?

[mrscolumbo]

Well Pyramid what can I say - news to me that Joanna was expecting a friend to help clean apartment on the Saturday 18th haven't read that anywhere - which just adds to the mystery as to how the hell does a well loved friendly girl who doen't respond to calls get forgotten about or at the very least no friends/work colleagues concerned that she hasn't answered their calls - hmmm very suspicious if you ask me - especially bf calls.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by JobsForTheBoys

Yes, but if he never had any pizza why would he get rid of the box????????

Which means he must have had some.

Gimme a pint of what youve been drinking will ya.

nope. It means that the killer,the pizza and the box are unconnected - or rather, could be unconnected.

The police are clearly searching for this box as there may be (I'm willing to consider) fingerprints on it - but let's say the find the box, with fingerprints on it (that don't match CJ's) - the prints could belong to any Tom, Dick or Harry - and not the killer.

I think they are doing the box hunt as they still suspect CJ - and are pining hopes on his prints being on the box. If they find said box, and his prints aren't on it.....that's them really back to square one. But given that they appear to have so little of substance to be going on with, it's a long shot that they feel is worthwhilse persuing.

I personally don't think it is connected. I really don't.

Originally Posted by JobsForTheBoys

Which person are we talking about here?

some person was to be going around to Joanna's on the Saturday to help clean the flat up - a friend of hers. Now I can't recall here much being mentioned about this friend - if they were male or female, if they arrived on the Saturday, if so, did they try to contact Jo, was the arrangment cancelled?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by JobsForTheBoys

Awwwwww I quite like her.

I quite like you too Jobs.

Originally Posted by mrscolumbo

Well Pyramid what can I say - news to me that Joanna was expecting a friend to help clean apartment on the Saturday 18th haven't read that anywhere - which just adds to the mystery as to how the hell does a well loved friendly girl who doen't respond to calls get forgotten about or at the very least no friends/work colleagues concerned that she hasn't answered their calls - hmmm very suspicious if you ask me - especially bf calls.

yep, it was definately mentioned. Let me go have a wee mooch quickly - see if I can find something about it.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by mrscolumbo

Well Pyramid what can I say - news to me that Joanna was expecting a friend to help clean apartment on the Saturday 18th haven't read that anywhere - which just adds to the mystery as to how the hell does a well loved friendly girl who doen't respond to calls get forgotten about or at the very least no friends/work colleagues concerned that she hasn't answered their calls - hmmm very suspicious if you ask me - especially bf calls.

It does seem odd that the BF in particular didn't try calling her between the evening of the 17th and the 19th when he returned home.

[JobsForTheBoys]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I think they are doing the box hunt as they still suspect CJ - and are pining hopes on his prints being on the box. If they find said box, and his prints aren't on it.....that's them really back to square one. But given that they appear to have so little of substance to be going on with, it's a long shot that they feel is worthwhilse persuing.

I think CJ was used as a scapegoat to appease the press and to lull the real killer into a false sense of security.

Also to make it look like they were doing something.

[mrscolumbo]

dear angus - apparently bf sent numerous calls and texts during the 17th - 19th Dec. which he got no replies from according to reports.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by mrscolumbo

dear angus - apparently bf sent numerous calls and texts during the 17th - 19th Dec. which he got no replies from according to reports.

Well don't you think he would have raised the alarm immediately then?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by angus58

It does seem odd that the BF in particular didn't try calling her between the evening of the 17th and the 19th when he returned home.

I do too. I find it very odd. But hey, different folks, different strokes.

Originally Posted by JobsForTheBoys

I think CJ was used as a scapegoat to appease the press and to lull the real killer into a false sense of security.

Also to make it look like they were doing something.

I do too.

Re: the friend of Jo's. I def recall reading / hearing it because I recall thinking that if a friend was coming round to help her clear up, that the flat must have been in some helluva state.

Still mooching - I did come across this though:-

Police said there were no signs of forced entry at the flat but Jo’s parents were convinced she had been abducted when they saw the state of the property. David said: “We knew what the flat was like. We know what she does and doesn’t do. “We were 100% convinced within 30 minutes of arriving she had been abducted.”

He said there were “other factors, other reasons that we’ve been asked by the police not to go into”, that left him convinced she had been snatched.

David added: “We had grave concerns based on what was in the flat. We knew she had not gone of her own volition. We came to the conclusion it was unlikely she would have been found alive.

“The state of the flat indicated she had been abducted. Jo and Greg were quite untidy and we knew she was planning on tidying up on Saturday.

“On top of that she did not respond to Greg’s texts that night and they were both devoted to each other.”

Last part is weird...... didnt either the mother or father say that it was not unususal for Jo not to respond to text messages? In fact, without hunting for it, I'm sure the wording that was reported was, "it was consistent" (ie; that she didn't respond to texts).

As for the what was 'in' the flat, and what the father said the police asked him not to go into:- the father has been pretty adamant all along that she was abducted (and then killed).

[Pyramid*]

Jo was reported missing after Greg, 27, returned to their flat on Sunday night following a weekend visiting his family in Sheffield.
Greg, who is also an architect, tried to contact Jo over the weekend but she failed to answer her phone and texts.
David said it was not unusual, adding: "It was consistent with what she was like."

From the Sun. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...Jo-Yeates.html

so I'm unclear why at a later stage, the comment in my last post was made - as it's worded that her not responding was odd.

[mrscolumbo]

agree with jobsfortheboys Mr Jefferies was an easy target and his arrest released pressure on the police investigation - as they appear to have made no progress - however if a vital piece of evidence has been destroyed or gone forever into a land fill the real culprit will possibly remain at large for a very long time and an innocent man's character linked forever with the crime - shame on you avon & somerset police!

[JobsForTheBoys]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I do too. I find it very odd. But hey, different folks, different strokes.



I do too.

Re: the friend of Jo's. I def recall reading / hearing it because I recall thinking that if a friend was coming round to help her clear up, that the flat must have been in some helluva state.

Then can you obviously see her throwing a pizza box in the dustbin, especially after she's been out for a drink???

[babycakes]

Originally Posted by JobsForTheBoys

Then can you obviously see her throwing a pizza box in the dustbin, especially after she's been out for a drink???

and not very tidy according to her parents. I think Pizza never made it home; it was dropped along the way perhaps ?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by JobsForTheBoys

Then can you obviously see her throwing a pizza box in the dustbin, especially after she's been out for a drink???

Yes..... a person can be untidy by means of having clothes lying around, paperwork, work related things, study thing - it doesn't mean there would allow bins to overflow etc. So yes, still possible. She / they might have been untidy buggars but they could have still have thrown rubbish away.

[JobsForTheBoys]

Originally Posted by babycakes

and not very tidy according to her parents. I think Pizza never made it home; it was dropped along the way perhaps ?

I think she got a lift home.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by babycakes

and not very tidy according to her parents. I think Pizza never made it home; it was dropped along the way perhaps ?

It's a possibility! If she got a lift home as some are thinking - she could have accidentally left it in the car? If it was the killer who gave her a lift, they're hardly likely to let the police know, "Hey, I found your missing pizza and box".

There is something really weird about this whole thing (not just the pizza) the whole kittinkaboddle.

[JobsForTheBoys]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Yes..... a person can be untidy by means of having clothes lying around, paperwork, work related things, study thing - it doesn't mean there would allow bins to overflow etc. So yes, still possible. She / they might have been untidy buggars but they could have still have thrown rubbish away.

So they were only untidy with clothes and not food youre saying.

what categories do pizza boxes, toothpaste, carrier bags and cat litter come under?????? food or clothes???

[InOne]

Hmmm, it's weird that they found the reciept for the pizza in her house, yet the rest of it remains missing.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by JobsForTheBoys

So they were only untidy with clothes and not food youre saying.

what categories do pizza boxes, toothpaste, carrier bags and cat litter come under?????? food or clothes???

Yes, I'm saying it is entirely possible.

Because someone may be untidy - it doesn't automatically mean they will have overflowing rubbish all over the place.

The place could have been strewn with sketches, paintings, books, DVDs, CDs, clothing - it doesn't necessarily mean that they pile up rubbish.