[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You may think he is a bigot but that just means just that, I dont and neither does the author or millions of others

I'm not even specifically talking about what I personally think, just the utterly retarded notion that if you're "only saying the first thing that comes into your head" then you're somehow absolved completely of the content of that statement. Completely illogical nonsense .

[kirklancaster]

It's interesting to read that Charles Lister, a fellow at the Middle East Institute, notes that the disputed Trump video contains a long list of elements that a jihadi video would never include, among them countless uncovered women, men in shorts and tank tops, and a man holding arms with a woman.

These Jihadists certainly have highly moral sensibilities.

I wonder who keeps raping the women and children which ISIS keep abducting then, before selling them off as sex-slaves?

[DemolitionRed]

The worst thing you can call a racist is a racist but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

[bots]

I don't agree with much of what Trump says, but I do defend his right to say it. This isn't the UK, this is the USA where it is a fundamental right to be able to voice your opinion.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

The worst thing you can call a racist is a racist but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

No the worst thing you an do is call someone anything with no evidence to back it up


We have already had one poster make an error with a picture that was badly interpretated and we have not seen them since

[Ammi]

..the thing is..(as I see it anyway..)..is those who are 'hating on him' so aggressively..those at the rallies and speeches I mean, who go along to hate him and hate his supporters are also giving him exactly what he wants as much as those whose fears etc, he's exploiting and who agree with him.../it's all feeding him in the same way, he doesn't care whether it's love or 'hate', so long as he's creating everything he is atm...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm not even specifically talking about what I personally think, just the utterly retarded notion that if you're "only saying the first thing that comes into your head" then you're somehow absolved completely of the content of that statement. Completely illogical nonsense .

you miss the point, its the fact that US politics is so sterile and pc thapolitician human speak raw

In other words the viewers are saying, "no we can work out what he says and we dont need Washington to speak to us like children"


The voters are not daft, but they are welcoming change

[bots]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..the thing is..(as I see it anyway..)..is those who are 'hating on him' so aggressively..those at the rallies and speeches I mean, who go along to hate him and hate his supporters are also giving him exactly what he wants as much as those whose fears etc, he's exploiting and who agree with him.../it's all feeding him in the same way, he doesn't care whether it's love or 'hate', so long as he's creating everything he is atm...

This is absolutely true. For every 1 hater that behaves in an inappropriate manner it will generate 100 people that support his right of free speech. The best way to deal with trump is to starve him of publicity and force him into the margins by his own behaviour.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

This is absolutely true. For every 1 hater that behaves in an inappropriate manner it will generate 100 people that support his right of free speech. The best way to deal with trump is to starve him of publicity and force him into the margins by his own behaviour.

...I think that if you 'fight' what you feel is hate and prejudice with more hate and prejudice, all that happens, whether 'well intentioned' or not, is you also become part of what you're fighting against or what you're objecting to.../which is what it seems is happening at his rallies atm, it's all becoming very blurred and it shouldn't be blurred...

[DemolitionRed]

They didn't need to rush the stage. All they need are stink bombs.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

you miss the point, its the fact that US politics is so sterile and pc thapolitician human speak raw

In other words the viewers are saying, "no we can work out what he says and we dont need Washington to speak to us like children"


The voters are not daft, but they are welcoming change

So so long as he says whatever he is saying in a "real" and "raw" way, it doesn't actually matter WHAT he is saying? People will support him regardless, just for being different? Like a protest vote?

Seems as good a way to elect the most powerful figure in the western world as any, I suppose...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So so long as he says whatever he is saying in a "real" and "raw" way, it doesn't actually matter WHAT he is saying? People will support him regardless, just for being different? Like a protest vote?

Seems as good a way to elect the most powerful figure in the western world as any, I suppose...

what he says on twitter is not policy, i think folks can distinguish betwixt the two

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

The worst thing you can call a racist is a racist but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

Truth.

Youtube video

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..the thing is..(as I see it anyway..)..is those who are 'hating on him' so aggressively..those at the rallies and speeches I mean, who go along to hate him and hate his supporters are also giving him exactly what he wants as much as those whose fears etc, he's exploiting and who agree with him.../it's all feeding him in the same way, he doesn't care whether it's love or 'hate', so long as he's creating everything he is atm...

Where did that nonsensical phrase 'hate on' come from? It means nothing.
People go to protest if they feel as a free person they are within their rights ( in the land of the free) to do.
How then is this considered hate?
Are the protesters not anti 'hate'... if the one who is preaching hate is the one giving the rally are you suggesting it's wrong to tell haters you dislike them hating?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Truth.

I have actually found myself wondering if the popularity of Trump (or someone else cut from the same cloth) was pretty much inevitable in the wake of the US's first black president. If Hillary gets in next as the first female president, I think it'll be interesting to see if there's similarly a "hyper-masculine" candidate on the rise after she's had her time.

[Crimson Dynamo]

@realDonaldTrump
#MakeAmericaGreatAgain #Trump2016

New York, NY
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Joined March 2009

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 19h19 hours ago


The failing @nytimes is truly one of the worst newspapers. They knowingly write lies and never even call to fact check. Really bad people!

[arista]

ithinkiloveyoutoo

Thanks for the Comedy Video SNL
Loved the Bernie Saunders

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Who’s voting for Trump? According to the New York Times, exactly who you’d think. He’s doing well among whites with no high school diploma (he loves ‘em), voters who deem their ancestry as “American,” mobile home residents, blue-collar workers and those who have voted for candidates who supported racial segregation. But Trump is not a monolith.

http://mic.com/articles/137810/this-...ial#.QShWrm63l

[Kizzy]

Trump is your Farage

[Kizzy]

Trump upsets anonymous

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a6931696.html

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Trump upsets anonymous

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a6931696.html

No they should keep attacking Isis online
not Trump

[bots]

How Trump deals with protesters

Youtube video

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

How Trump deals with protesters

Youtube video

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

How Trump deals with protesters

Youtube video

Brilliant.I mean i could'nt see him as president but he's a funny guy.He does tell it how it is.

[Kizzy]

From the 'Humans of New York'.

An Open Letter to Donald Trump:

Mr. Trump,

I try my hardest not to be political. I’ve refused to interview several of your fellow candidates. I didn’t want to risk any personal goodwill by appearing to take sides in a contentious election. I thought: ‘Maybe the timing is not right.’ But I realize now that there is no correct time to oppose violence and prejudice. The time is always now. Because along with millions of Americans, I’ve come to realize that opposing you is no longer a political decision. It is a moral one.

I’ve watched you retweet racist images. I’ve watched you retweet racist lies. I’ve watched you take 48 hours to disavow white supremacy. I’ve watched you joyfully encourage violence, and promise to ‘pay the legal fees’ of those who commit violence on your behalf. I’ve watched you advocate the use of torture and the murder of terrorists’ families. I’ve watched you gleefully tell stories of executing Muslims with bullets dipped in pig blood. I’ve watched you compare refugees to ‘snakes,’ and claim that ‘Islam hates us.’

I am a journalist, Mr. Trump. And over the last two years I have conducted extensive interviews with hundreds of Muslims, chosen at random, on the streets of Iran, Iraq, and Pakistan. I’ve also interviewed hundreds of Syrian and Iraqi refugees across seven different countries. And I can confirm— the hateful one is you.

Those of us who have been paying attention will not allow you to rebrand yourself. You are not a ‘unifier.’ You are not ‘presidential.’ You are not a ‘victim’ of the very anger that you’ve joyfully enflamed for months. You are a man who has encouraged prejudice and violence in the pursuit of personal power. And though your words will no doubt change over the next few months, you will always remain who you are.

Sincerely,
Brandon Stanton