[user104658]

The advice and process for literally any adult vaccine you might get is that if you miss the 2nd dose window then you have to wait a while and then restart with the first dose again.

This decision goes against the advice of the people who made and tested the vaccine, and there are thousands of doctors speaking out against it, even GP's saying that they will not follow this advice with their patients.

Its an absolute joke. A dangerous shambles. Anyone who agrees to this is volunteering themselves to guinneapig an untested method and will at the end of the day have absolutely no idea if they're protected or not.

My advice is, if you're not in one of the MOST vulnerable groups, WAIT until they abandon this madness and until you're relatively sure that you'll get the proper dosage with the proper spacing as tested.

[arista]

[Kizzy]

What reason have they given for the 3 month gap?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What reason have they given for the 3 month gap?

The new idea is to vaccine as many people as possible with one dose as soon as possible to slow the infection rate down and worry about the second dose later


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[arista]

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

The new idea is to vaccine as many people as possible with one dose as soon as possible to slow the infection rate down and worry about the second dose later


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Just ludicrous, knee-jerk, anti-scientific nonsense. The focus should be on rolling out - PROPERLY - as fast as possible.

This is them sticking their thumb in the dam and hoping for the best.

Plus you'll have a bunch of people heading out after their first shot thinking they're "probably protected" and half of them catching Covid.

I'm honestly low-key furious. There's bad decisions and then there's this catastrophe.

[arista]

Spoiler:

D.Mail

[bots]

it was the vaccination board together with the Chief medical officers of each country that made the decision on the vaccination strategy so I trust them to have studied the data and made the right decision

[Ammi]

GPs criticise ‘unfair’ decision to delay second dose of Covid vaccines...


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/gps-critic...122711416.html

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it was the vaccination board together with the Chief medical officers of each country that made the decision on the vaccination strategy so I trust them to have studied the data and made the right decision

...this is too important to place to ‘trust’, though, I feel...because of the potential lives involved...the delay absolutely should be questioned and assured that the vaccine will still have the same effectiveness...didn’t those same Chief Medical Officers, back in the day last Spring...say that mask wearing for healthy public would be a totally pointless thing...and yet...

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...this is too important to place to ‘trust’, though, I feel...because of the potential lives involved...the delay absolutely should be questioned and assured that the vaccine will still have the same effectiveness...didn’t those same Chief Medical Officers, back in the day last Spring...say that mask wearing for healthy public would be a totally pointless thing...and yet...

Plus they were the ones that took nearly 12 WEEKS to acknowledge that loss/ change in smell or taste were a key / obvious sign of Covid when everyone plus their uncle were reporting it as a symptom ... now it’s listed above the damn cough in the adverts


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[Zizu]

Apparently the new Oxford vaccine will next week hit an immediate ‘red tape’ bottleneck in the form of ‘diversity training’ as all the thousands of volunteers ( ex nurses and doctors) will have to go through that training and have to complete and sign 21 documents , be certified in ‘preventing radicalisation’ and certified in ‘fire safety ‘ and certified in ‘conflict resolution’ ... after all this they are given a one hour online training session ....


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[bots]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...this is too important to place to ‘trust’, though, I feel...because of the potential lives involved...the delay absolutely should be questioned and assured that the vaccine will still have the same effectiveness...didn’t those same Chief Medical Officers, back in the day last Spring...say that mask wearing for healthy public would be a totally pointless thing...and yet...

we don't have access to the vaccine data, most doctors don't either. The vaccine board and the CMO's do.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

we don't have access to the vaccine data, most doctors don't either. The vaccine board and the CMO's do.

...yeah, for sure they do Bots....and for that reason I feel that any huge changes to the vaccine doses and procedures etc, should be fully explained and reassured when life preservation is involved...because in the same way, I’m sure that 2/3 weeks wasn’t something that was just randomly chosen and we totally placed trust in that, did we not...?...so explaining why any effectiveness won’t be lost with the much extended time, is keeping with that trust ...which has to be a two way thing always...and although GP’s are just that ‘general practitioners’ with no specific medical specialisation...they do have enough medical knowledge to also question and ask for clarification, which it seems that many are...

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

The new idea is to vaccine as many people as possible with one dose as soon as possible to slow the infection rate down and worry about the second dose later


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That doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

That doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

Covid: 12-week vaccine gap defended by UK medical chiefs



[The UK's chief medical officers have
defended the Covid vaccination plan,
after criticism from a doctors' union.
The UK will give both parts of the Oxford and
Pfizer vaccines 12 weeks apart,
having initially planned to leave
21 days between the Pfizer jabs.

The British Medical Association said
cancelling patients booked in for
their second doses was "grossly unfair".

But the chief medical officers said getting
more people vaccinated with
the first jab "is much more preferable".

The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was the first jab
approved in the UK, and 944,539 people
have had their first jab.

The first person to get the jab on 8 December,
Margaret Keenan, has already had her second jab.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55503739

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it was the vaccination board together with the Chief medical officers of each country that made the decision on the vaccination strategy so I trust them to have studied the data and made the right decision

When the counter-voice is the people who made and tested the various vaccines and they are saying it's the wrong way to use it, you might want to consider where to place your trust.

[arista]

Yes TS
its all because the stock level of both vaccines is low.


So their New Long 12 weeks is down to do with Production fails.

[Zizu]

Hope we do not have anyone like this

A Wisconsin hospital worker was fired after they admitted to deliberately damaging hundreds of doses of a Covid vaccine.

According to the Aurora Medical Center in Grafton, Wisconsin, a worker at the hospital admitted to deliberately sabotaging some 500 doses on Wednesday


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[arista]

[Chief medical officer
Chris Whitty warns coronavirus vaccine shortages will last months ]


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...onths-12176673

[The Slim Reaper]

OK this is truly appalling; they conned folks into taking the vaccine in a way that wasn't in any way approved, and all for optics. Absolutely shameless and dangerous as we risk an evolutionary mutation, with built up resistance to the vaccine.

Absolute madness.

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

OK this is truly appalling; they conned folks into taking the vaccine in a way that wasn't in any way approved, and all for optics. Absolutely shameless and dangerous as we risk an evolutionary mutation, with built up resistance to the vaccine.

Absolute madness.

Some are saying that.
Others say the 2nd jab is a booster


It all simply because they are not able to increase production
in both vaccines.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Some are saying that.
Others say the 2nd jab is a booster


It all simply because they are not able to increase production
in both vaccines.

Well considering the first jab hasn't been proven to provide any resistance beyond 21 days, then the "some" saying it's ok, really need to back that up.

Science isn't a both sides debate.

If they didn't have the vaccines, they shouldn't have tried to tie it to brexit independence (even bots believed brexit was a benefit to the vaccine), and claimed victory.

The government is actually using us as guinea-pigs.

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Well considering the first jab hasn't been proven to provide any resistance beyond 21 days, then the "some" saying it's ok, really need to back that up.

Science isn't a both sides debate.

If they didn't have the vaccines, they shouldn't have tried to tie it to brexit independence (even bots believed brexit was a benefit to the vaccine), and claimed victory.

The government is actually using us as guinea-pigs.

This was not a Government Decision


The Production of both
the Vaccines have not reached a larger number
thats the problem.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

This was not a Government Decision


The Production of both
the Vaccines have not reached a larger number

Then don't wheel them out in a victory parade. They didn't need to do it. we're all waiting patiently as it is, but the UK couldn't wait until we had enough, we used it as propaganda instead, and now more people are likely to die because of incompetence, optics, and flag-shagging.