[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

I agree that everyone is entitled to their beliefs in ideologies. But when you have a certain country/group in power that are committing terrorist attacks all over the world, you can’t just sit back and let it happen.

They aren't committing terror attacks all over the world. World terrorism is funded by the Saudis, Pakistan, and maybe Iran in some instances.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

The thing that scares me the most is that we don’t know who is problematic and who isn’t, and that in itself is terrifying.

We should 100% be helping out refugees and those whose homes we have ruined within the last 20+ years. But at the same time, there will absolutely be a rise in terrorist attacks across the globe again.

Truly awful times.

Yup. There should be a hell of a lot of vetting before any refugees are accepted from that region.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Sure but that's not much comfort to the women there who now have to get back to being non-human property with no autonomy

I agree, and what we've done to them is appalling as I've stated numerous times in this thread already. I was talking in general terms about the potential for terrorism, and the misguided thinking that occupation of any length will outlast them.

I don't support the actions taken by the US and the UK in the slightest.

[Nicky91]

The situation in Afghanistan is deeply important to Anoush Dastgir, the country's only 31-year-old national coach. Dastgir came to the Netherlands at a young age and tells De Telegraaf about the situation of one of his players who is in Afghanistan. Because of the seizure of power by the Taliban, he has to fear for his life.

As a footballer in the Netherlands, Dastgir just didn't make it to professional football and decided at a young age to focus on the coaching profession. He was appointed by the Afghan Football Association in 2018, becoming the youngest national coach ever. "I soon noticed that the national team had a huge influence on the rest of our country," said the proud Dastgir. "Previously, one television channel had the broadcasting rights, now there are four. The people of Afghanistan say that we are their only joy, that we are the only ones who put a smile on their faces. The connection grew so much that I started to delve more and more into politics."

Now that the Taliban have taken power in Afghanistan, football has become an afterthought in the country. "I have daily contact with my players via WhatsApp," dastgir says. "One is in western Afghanistan. He sent, "Trainer, I really need to cry that you send me a message. We are so powerless. Every day we wonder when they come to kill me, because I played for the national team." I didn't sleep for four or five nights. I can only hope that the Taliban do not invade his house and kill him. He just played for the people."

Dastgir's father, like him, has a Dutch passport, but went back to Afghanistan in 2004 to help the country. The national coach appeals to his father and the rest of the Afghan citizens. "This is the time when the Afghan people must ensure that the Taliban do not gain total power. The moment when they can retain their rights, which has been fought for for twenty years and for which people have been killed. Show once that it was not for nothing. If that doesn't happen, then in a month's time, when the media attention is gone, you will have no chance."

Dastgir thinks that his father should stay despite the extremely troubled situation. "It may hurt my father that I say this, but I don't want him to abandon his residents. He can take the plane, because he has a Dutch passport. But I don't want him to do that. I want him to be at the forefront of the fight if there is resistance. He went back to Afghanistan in 2004 to make a difference. Now there are problems and he should not leave."

Dastgir himself continues to monitor the situation from the Netherlands. "I went in a different direction and as a national coach in my field I have meant something to my country. I didn't grow up in Afghanistan. I do ask him to stay. No matter how bad it gets. Even if he were to die in battle. Then I am very sad, but at the same time very proud. Fight together and then you can win, draw or lose. That's the way it is for me, and that's the way it is for my father."

https://www.voetbalzone.nl/doc.asp?uid=392505

dutch article which i translated, felt interesting enough to share here

[bots]

Afghanistan's fugitive President Ashraf Ghani is in the United Arab Emirates, the Gulf state's foreign ministry has announced.

"The UAE Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation can confirm that the UAE has welcomed President Ashraf Ghani and his family into the country on humanitarian grounds," a spokesperson said in a statement.

Mr Ghani fled the capital Kabul on Sunday afternoon as Taliban fighters advanced on the city.

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Apparently he also had $169 million in cash

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Afghanistan's fugitive President Ashraf Ghani is in the United Arab Emirates, the Gulf state's foreign ministry has announced.

"The UAE Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation can confirm that the UAE has welcomed President Ashraf Ghani and his family into the country on humanitarian grounds," a spokesperson said in a statement.

Mr Ghani fled the capital Kabul on Sunday afternoon as Taliban fighters advanced on the city.

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Apparently he also had $169 million in cash

Just watched an interview with the British Ambassador who has stayed on along with a team of volunteers to process visas, what a contrast eh

[jet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

They aren't committing terror attacks all over the world. World terrorism is funded by the Saudis, Pakistan, and maybe Iran in some instances.

That's not quite the full story. The Taliban make millions upon millions annually from drug trafficking, extortion, ransoms and most of all opium production (over £300 million) in 2018 - 2019 alone.

[Cherie]

Where is Kamala Harris? If Biden won’t break off from his holidays surely she should be stepping up?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by jet

That's not quite the full story. The Taliban make millions upon millions annually from drug trafficking, extortion, ransoms and most of all opium production (over £300 million) in 2018 - 2019 alone.

The CIA says hi.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Where is Kamala Harris? If Biden won’t break off from his holidays surely she should be stepping up?

Boris spoke to Biden last night. Thats the first contact Biden has had with a foreign leader since it became obvious that the taliban were going to surge through the country. I don't think relations are good with the USA at all

[jet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The CIA says hi.

What does that response mean?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Where is Kamala Harris? If Biden won’t break off from his holidays surely she should be stepping up?

Proof she is as useless as he is.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by jet

What does that response mean?

It means that the CIA have a history of doing exactly the same things.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Just watched an interview with the British Ambassador who has stayed on along with a team of volunteers to process visas, what a contrast eh

It is indeed.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It means that the CIA have a history of doing exactly the same things.

Can you post links please.

[jet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It means that the CIA have a history of doing exactly the same things.

This thread is about the Taliban activities. Your response is verging on making excuses for them.

[bots]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Can you post links please.

it's well known parm, thats what oliver north was involved in too

[Crimson Dynamo]

I did not think this biden presidency would have imploded so soon but there you go...

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by jet

This thread is about the Taliban activities. Your response is verging on making excuses for them.

No it isn't. I'm pointing out that what the Taliban is doing is nothing new.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Boris spoke to Biden last night. Thats the first contact Biden has had with a foreign leader since it became obvious that the taliban were going to surge through the country. I don't think relations are good with the USA at all

Do we know how many refugees the US are planning to take, absolutely shocking that he should be on holiday and no one is asking why he is, this process was instigated by Trump, however he could have overturned it, and saying Trump would be out by 1st May while he has added four months to the schedule is just not good enough, the other thing is I see people standing up in Parliament today saying the evacuation should have started when Trump made the deal, makes sense but did anyone stand up in Parliament and ask for this before now

[Denver]

We created this mess, imagine controlling a country for decades then just walk away without a care in the world about what would happen

[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Do we know how many refugees the US are planning to take, absolutely shocking that he should be on holiday and no one is asking why he is, this process was instigated by Trump, however he could have overturned it, and saying Trump would be out by 1st May while he has added four months to the schedule is just not good enough, the other thing is I see people standing up in Parliament today saying the evacuation should have started when Trump made the deal, makes sense but did anyone stand up in Parliament and ask for this before now

yeah, parliament has been available since the decision was made by trump.

Also, Biden wont admit it, but he is much closer to trump politically than he makes out. Compare and contrast trump to obama, and there is much more of a fundamental difference

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I did not think this biden presidency would have imploded so soon but there you go...

Meh. People won't remember this in 2024.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by toy soldier

meh. People won't remember this in 2024.

if he makes that date

[Alf]

All I'm saying is, this wouldn't be happening under Trump.