[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by kisywisy

i don't know. i mean, he's not being bullied anymore and hasn't been for a while. he's still analysing. he might be like this normally or he could still be on the defensive

Making a big deal out of nothing

Nit picking once again and siavash has made himself look a plonker for folllowing Noirin and cheating on his Gf

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by beso
They both waited for the cameras to swivel both had the appropriate clothing on, and both ..well they both a pair of clowns in my opinion....


And what happened to Freddies stance on bitching about people he took in week two.

Is it not bitching when it's freddie and bea, are thier convos above bitching because they use big words and think thier point of view is correct..

pair of hypocrites..

nah, it actually looked like it was really hard for freddie to say it. he even said that he didn't want to actually say the words as that means his fears about the situation would be out in the open (to the public)

i don't see wht you've called bea a hypocrite. she might talk throught her thoughts with people, but she has always spoken to the hm she's been talking about once she's got it clear in her head

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by kisywisy

nah, it actually looked like it was really hard for freddie to say it. he even said that he didn't want to actually say the words as that means his fears about the situation would be out in the open (to the public)

i don't see wht you've called bea a hypocrite. she might talk throught her thoughts with people, but she has always spoken to the hm she's been talking about once she's got it clear in her head

she's stirrering the pot Kisywisy and she wants to destroy anything

i think she's the most untrustworthy one

[Parmy]

Originally posted by kisywisy

nah, it actually looked like it was really hard for freddie to say it. he even said that he didn't want to actually say the words as that means his fears about the situation would be out in the open (to the public)

i don't see wht you've called bea a hypocrite. she might talk throught her thoughts with people, but she has always spoken to the hm she's been talking about once she's got it clear in her head

Lol...90 percent of beas and freddies convos are about the other housemates....siavash, noirin, lisa, marcus...nah, they don't talk about people behind there backs at all...lmao..when they going to tell lisa what they think of her then !!!!


Hypocrites, the pair of them...

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by arsenalforever

she's stirrering the pot Kisywisy and she wants to destroy anything

i think she's the most untrustworthy one

To be fair I actually think she's fairly legit and speaks her mind, isn't afraid to voice a conflicting opinion with Freddie, etc.

Look at the Marcus issue, the sleaze/annoyance issue, and telling Siavash about Noirin fancying Tom. She's not afraid to be herself and say what she thinks, even if Freddie doesn't like it, or if Siavash doesn't want to hear it.

She didn't have to tell Siavash in the garden, about Noirin fancying Tom. She even went further and told him that she suggested to Noirin to not do anything with Tom. That was pretty honest and open.

I mean, even little things, like telling Freddie about her hugs with Marcus. It's open and honest.

She does have a gameplan, and tactical nouse - But who doesn't in there?

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

To be fair I actually think she's fairly legit and speaks her mind, isn't afraid to voice a conflicting opinion with Freddie, etc.

Look at the Marcus issue, the sleaze/annoyance issue, and telling Siavash about Noirin fancying Tom. She's not afraid to be herself and say what she thinks, even if Freddie doesn't like it, or if Siavash doesn't want to hear it.

She didn't have to tell Siavash in the garden, about Noirin fancying Tom. She even went further and told him that she suggested to Noirin to not do anything with Tom. That was pretty honest and open.

I mean, even little things, like telling Freddie about her hugs with Marcus. It's open and honest.

She does have a gameplan, and tactical nouse - But who doesn't in there?

but she's using a guy who's real thinking she's a mate but slags himbehind his abck

Not a good gameplayer but a nasty person

we both disagree on her tatics but i think she's a right nasty one

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by beso
Lol...90 percent of beas and freddies convos are about the other housemates....siavash, noirin, lisa, marcus...nah, they don't talk about people behind there backs at all...lmao..when they going to tell lisa what they think of her then !!!!


Hypocrites, the pair of them...

They do show more respect and tact though, and aren't afraid to tell the others about what they said, when it comes up.

Bea has no qualms even conflicting with Freddie, who is her best friend in the house. She's not afraid to voice her view and back it up.

She didn't need to mention Freddie's sleaze/annoyance, to tell Siavash about Noirin fancying Tom and her advice to Noirin about calling it off with Tom, and even to Freddie about her hugs with Marcus.

Freddie hasn't said anything particularly backstabbing. I mean he even brings up the issues, like he did with Tom, or in the past with Lisa.

There's being 2-faced, then there's discussions behind and also infront of those you talk about.

[Parmy]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

They do show more respect and tact though, and aren't afraid to tell the others about what they said, when it comes up.

Bea has no qualms even conflicting with Freddie, who is her best friend in the house. She's not afraid to voice her view and back it up.

She didn't need to mention Freddie's sleaze/annoyance, to tell Siavash about Noirin fancying Tom and her advice to Noirin about calling it off with Tom, and even to Freddie about her hugs with Marcus.

Freddie hasn't said anything particularly backstabbing. I mean he even brings up the issues, like he did with Tom, or in the past with Lisa.

There's being 2-faced, then there's discussions behind and also infront of those you talk about.

And theres deliberate **** stirring.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by arsenalforever

but she's using a guy who's real thinking she's a mate but slags himbehind his abck

Not a good gameplayer but a nasty person

we both disagree on her tatics but i think she's a right nasty one

I don't think she slags him off behind his back, she told him or was directly made aware of what she thought. That's why he was upset and went in the diary room. It was no secret.

Like I said, if she wanted to play happy families and ride on Freddie, why say things like that, hug Marcus and then tell Freddie about it, tell Siavash about Noirin fancying Tom, etc?

She wouldn't have 1-1 conflicts with Marcus infront of Freddie, which made him upset, etc.

My mind is still open to change though, and I'm still not 100% sure.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by beso
And theres deliberate **** stirring.

Well if it's just between the two of them, it's not really trouble-stirring. If they did gossip about it to other HMs and embellish the entire thing to make it seem as negative as possible, then yes.

But both do seem prepared to share fairly rational, unbiased views most of the time, and face the person in Q whenever the issue comes up.

You can talk about other people as long as you don't start spreading rumours that haven't been validated as true, and as long as you can be honest and open to the person(s) in Q when it comes up.

Like Marcus said. Be honest and true to yourself, then there's no need to worry when Q'd.