[BBmassive]

No way ,Bea is her own person ,very much so ,i like her

[InOne]

Well talk about Bea!!!! Or Noirin. And I think Bea is one of the production team, come to stir things up.

[sl3ptsolong]

Originally posted by InOne
Nobody said hate! But she is manipulating, and backstabbing. There is no real reason to dislike Marcus either.

Are you joking? Marcus is manipulating and backstabing.

Evidence:

With Noirin he manipulated her against Tom as soon as he came in the house. Not only Noirin but tried it on with most of the housemates. Telling Rodrigo "did you hear he told you to shut up" which then got Rodrigo saying "who he think he is telling me to shut up?"

1 day and Marcus pounced on Tom because he knew Noirin would like her. Its pathetic. He was the exact same with Frederico and he didnt even get to speak to the guy.

Marcus had claimed Noirin as her own and manipulated her into believing he knew the social dinamics of the house and she was too "stupid" to realise these things.

When Noirin went with Siavash proof of the manipulating was in her fear of telling Marcus. Its like telling a parent because they have installed their values inside of you for so long that you feel bad for going against them.

Marcus was so childish in the Noirin situation. Cutting her and Siavash off completely because they liked each other? If Marcus and Noirin were truely friends he would have been happy for her. He even had the cheek to say Siavash has a girlfriend ... thats why we're not friends. Please! come on if that was the case he'd still not be talking to him till this day.

As for Bea I would like to hear some examples of ACTUAL manipulating and backstabbing.

[bettiepage]

She's not as stupid as Noirin, so no.

[InOne]

Erm, when Tom told her to not too lead on Halfwit, she went and told him. She has halfwit hanging on her every word, and making him feel guilty by storming off anytimes he dares question her. Also calling him sleazy, very nice huh?

[preciousgal]

Originally posted by sl3ptsolong

Are you joking? Marcus is manipulating and backstabing.

Evidence:

With Noirin he manipulated her against Tom as soon as he came in the house. Not only Noirin but tried it on with most of the housemates. Telling Rodrigo "did you hear he told you to shut up" which then got Rodrigo saying "who he think he is telling me to shut up?"

1 day and Marcus pounced on Tom because he knew Noirin would like her. Its pathetic. He was the exact same with Frederico and he didnt even get to speak to the guy.

Marcus had claimed Noirin as her own and manipulated her into believing he knew the social dinamics of the house and she was too "stupid" to realise these things.

When Noirin went with Siavash proof of the manipulating was in her fear of telling Marcus. Its like telling a parent because they have installed their values inside of you for so long that you feel bad for going against them.

Marcus was so childish in the Noirin situation. Cutting her and Siavash off completely because they liked each other? If Marcus and Noirin were truely friends he would have been happy for her. He even had the cheek to say Siavash has a girlfriend ... thats why we're not friends. Please! come on if that was the case he'd still not be talking to him till this day.

As for Bea I would like to hear some examples of ACTUAL manipulating and backstabbing.

[sl3ptsolong]

Originally posted by InOne
Erm, when Tom told her to not too lead on Halfwit, she went and told him. She has halfwit hanging on her every word, and making him feel guilty by storming off anytimes he dares question her. Also calling him sleazy, very nice huh?

Yeah... she told him as in "i dont understand why he would think i'm leading you on"

She's worried that Tom see's something she isnt aware of. She wasnt getting Tom into trouble Halfwit just took it the wrong way. Its not her fault he fancies her tbh. But she acts the same way around Marcus. You can tell when Bea is flirting because she's done it with Siavash in the garden. Halfwit and Marcus dont get any of this. As for storming off she disagree'd with Halfwit how to handle the situation. So did I halfwit has his allegencies with Marcus and Siavash so he doesnt want to pick a side.

Bea is not scared to show her opinion. Halfwit is. I dont blame her for being annoyed at that. She's annoyed that halfwit can talk the talk in private with her. But when it comes to someones face he cant deliver. Which in essence is more two-faced than Bea.

Halfwit seems to do no wrong in these forums. It has been psychologically proven and talked about that Halfwit uses his humour and not so serious attitude to get him points across. Bea is more upfront which can come across as "not being very nice" and as it looks from your perception may be her downfall.

[InOne]

Well, Halfwit is the loveable eccentric toff, whilst Bea is the loud mouth bitchy toff.

[lime]

I think it's quite funny that the only one that can see through Bea at the moment is Lisa and if she starts to tell the other Hm's they will just think she is trying to influence nominations .

[Hedgie]

I think Bea performs the same function as Noirin. She's flirty and gets the guys around her, but not necessarily for the same reasons as Noirin. She is very much her own person. I think Isaac was a joker like Marcus too, he performed the same function. They set it up that way to keep the show interesting once either party left i think.

[InOne]

I wouldn't really compare Issac and Marcus at all. Marcus is a entertaining housemate. Issac was thick as anything and stuck Noirins arse the whole time he was there. All he had was sarcastic humour, which just made him look even more idiotic. He was just a dumb yank.

[loomy]

Bea wants to be like Noirin. She's desperate to be loved by all the men. Unfortunately, she's real ugly and not a very attractive person so she's ended up bitter and angry inside.

[InOne]

Originally posted by loomy
Bea wants to be like Noirin. She's desperate to be loved by all the men. Unfortunately, she's real ugly and not a very attractive person so she's ended up bitter and angry inside.

Meow Loomy lol Maybe a tad harsh, but I don't think her control over the house will last long, I bet Lisa is eager to take her down a peg.

[preciousgal]

Originally posted by lime
I think it's quite funny that the only one that can see through Bea at the moment is Lisa and she if she strarts to tell the other Hm's they will just think she is trying to influence nominations .

[sl3ptsolong]

Originally posted by preciousgal

You are now counting on Lisa to back you up? I retract my last statement now THIS is ridiculous

[InOne]

Originally posted by preciousgal

Yeah it would be good, but Lisa has lost ALOT of influence in the house, she basically only has David, who isn't really much of an influence himself. But whilst Bea snuggles up to Halfwit and Marcus, she's pretty much safe.

[sl3ptsolong]

Hmm I think the pitchforks are out on this. An angry mob doesnt need much evidence to find the witch. Its a real shame some people cant look a little bit deeper into the subject other than the typical "gameplan" subject.