[noirin4eva]

Originally posted by setanta

You're a big brother fanatic like us all. I just don't see the average punter racing to their phones every week if it doesn't involve their favourite. That'll have a huge effect on revenue for the show. Don't think they'll ever abandon the vote to evict.

I dont think they will ban the vote to evict i just would rather be watching lisa and marcus rather then hira beinazir. Make for a more entertaining show.

[Vicky.]

Hmm...maybe they could do something where it was vote to evict AND save.

Like 2 seperate lines for each housemate.

That way they could take evict votes away from the save votes, and whoever has the lowest, goes. This way people can chose to vote for their favourite OR who they want to go.

[setanta]

Think about it though.... people pick up the phones more readily when it's to do with something that pisses them off...... like nasty housemates. Big Brother wants those calls, they need those calls. They'll never change that trend.

[bananarama]

Originally posted by setanta
Think about it though.... people pick up the phones more readily when it's to do with something that p****s them off...... like nasty housemates. Big Brother wants those calls, they need those calls. They'll never change that trend.

Don't think so......House mates that P*ss people off are the entertainers......BB wants to keep them. Indeed BB must get very P****d of when vierwer keep on removing housemates that have gone through a long check list of accepting as suitable for the show...

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by setanta
Think about it though.... people pick up the phones more readily when it's to do with something that p****s them off...... like nasty housemates. Big Brother wants those calls, they need those calls. They'll never change that trend.

Check out my post above yours.


This way people can vote out if people piss them off, but also fans of the person who has done wrong, get a say.

[noirin4eva]

Originally posted by setanta
Think about it though.... people pick up the phones more readily when it's to do with something that p****s them off...... like nasty housemates. Big Brother wants those calls, they need those calls. They'll never change that trend.

So explain to me why the only eviction with a surprise outcome was last nights? Every other week was dull and predictable. The bookies dont have a clue as when its vote to evict a housemate like noirin who has a cult following will have no chance. (not that she had a chance anyway lol)

[setanta]

Originally posted by bananarama

Don't think so......House mates that P*ss people off are the entertainers......BB wants to keep them. Indeed BB must get very P****d of when vierwer keep on removing housemates that have gone through a long check list of accepting as suitable for the show...

I know that a good majority of them are entertaining. I'm just saying that you'll get more viewers off their arses to vote if it's to evict- most people watch the show outta morbid curiousity and to ridicule the housemates. They love the expectation of seeing them walking out to a chorus of boos.

Even the two words have a different feel and context you know? I just dont see as many people voting to save. Big Brother are trying to make money at the end of the day.

[setanta]

Originally posted by noirin4eva

So explain to me why the only eviction with a surprise outcome was last nights? Every other week was dull and predictable. The bookies dont have a clue as when its vote to evict a housemate like noirin who has a cult following will have no chance. (not that she had a chance anyway lol)

That's probably becuz it was the first one of that nature involving these housemates. Always hard to predict, especially with ten up. But I do feel that patterns would eventually emerge.

Hey, but my main argument is they'll lose votes with it as a vote to save. Don't lynch me girls lol. Just my opinion.

[Tom]

Originally posted by bananarama
I agree with those saying a vote to save and a minimum of three up would be a better option......Anything that can help negate the effect of hate merchants ruining story lines can only be of benefit....

If BB 11 be the last BB ever I hope they adopt a vote to save and a compulsary minimum of three up for eviction.......Along with no eviction at all for the first two weeks at least so that housemates and viewer alike can get to know housemates better before drawing conclusions......

Hasty conclusions from both public and housemates leads to the early loss of potentialy interesting and entertaining characters

They kind of did vote to save in Celeb BB3 when they had a vote to win and took a few vote counts over a number of days to evict people. If CBB returns next year I'd like to see them trial vote to save to see if it actually does work once and for all and then see if its worth doing on BB11.

About voting to evict- yes, people do like to vote to kick them out but equally people like to save their favourites and if their least favourites get saved it only fuels their hate. Hence the success of shows such as X Factor where you vote for your favourite and not who you think is the worst. It makes it a bit more unpredictable at times too.

It is a BB tradition but one that has run its course and one which is now ruining the show. But maybe using the Australian system (vote to save AND evict) would be better than both

[setanta]

Originally posted by VickyJ

Check out my post above yours.


This way people can vote out if people p**s them off, but also fans of the person who has done wrong, get a say.

Yeah, that could possibly work. Interesting idea. I'm not trying to start an argument here.... just think they'll lose voting figures, that's all.

[noirin4eva]

Originally posted by setanta

That's probably becuz it was the first one of that nature involving these housemates. Always hard to predict, especially with ten up. But I do feel that patterns would eventually emerge.

Hey, but my main argument is they'll lose votes with it as a vote to save. Don't lynch me girls lol. Just my opinion.

Well I've been commenting on how you said it would become dull and boring.

[billybu]

Originally posted by setanta

Yeah, that could possibly work. Interesting idea. I'm not trying to start an argument here.... just think they'll lose voting figures, that's all.

i dont think they will tho because its nore interesting when you have to vote to save your favourite because when its a large group like last night if it had have been a vote to evict it would have been just boring and kind of predictable

[mike888]

I really can't agree that having a vote to save would lose BB money. The chances are that if only 2 housemates were up and it was a vote to evict neither of them wouldn't be your favourite, whereas last night one had to be your favourite. If the system changed so that more housemates faced the public vote everyweek one of them would be highly likely to be your favourite therefore it gives people more incentive to vote, not less. Even I broke with tradition and voted last night whereas I wouldn't have done normally if my favourite wasn't involved. With regard to a petition word has it that there is going to be one and positive voting might, and I stress might, be tried out on the next CBB.

[mike888]

I really can't agree that having a vote to save would lose BB money. The chances are that if only 2 housemates were up and it was a vote to evict neither of them wouldn't be your favourite, whereas last night one had to be your favourite. If the system changed so that more housemates faced the public vote everyweek one of them would be highly likely to be your favourite therefore it gives people more incentive to vote, not less. Even I broke with tradition and voted last night whereas I wouldn't have done normally if my favourite wasn't involved. With regard to a petition word has it that there is going to be one and positive voting might, and I stress might, be tried out on the next CBB.

[setanta]

Originally posted by noirin4eva

Well I've been commenting on how you said it would become dull and boring.

Oh, I just think you wont see any really huge fluctuations in voting trends, like you do with a vote to evict show. You'll have people sticking with their favs and bookies will have more of an idea of where the votes will go.

My dull comment really centred on the all up for eviction process but I also think it would be easier to predict the outcome of many evictions this way.

[Tom]

Originally posted by setanta

Oh, I just think you wont see any really huge fluctuations in voting trends, like you do with a vote to evict show. You'll have people sticking with their favs and bookies will have more of an idea of where the votes will go.

My dull comment really centred on the all up for eviction process but I also think it would be easier to predict the outcome of many evictions this way.

I think the evictions since BB7 have been very predictable mainly due to the bookies and vote to save would make it less predictable. The only flawed thing about a vote to save would be that we could lose characters at the start who aren't so interesting but eventually develop into a huge one. For example in week 1 of BB9 in a vote to save we would have probably lost Luke or Lisa.

[billybu]

Originally posted by setanta

Oh, I just think you wont see any really huge fluctuations in voting trends, like you do with a vote to evict show. You'll have people sticking with their favs and bookies will have more of an idea of where the votes will go.

My dull comment really centred on the all up for eviction process but I also think it would be easier to predict the outcome of many evictions this way.

All the evictions this year have been boring tho because there all predictable apart from last nights it was the best 1 yet

[setanta]

Originally posted by Tom

They kind of did vote to save in Celeb BB3 when they had a vote to win and took a few vote counts over a number of days to evict people. If CBB returns next year I'd like to see them trial vote to save to see if it actually does work once and for all and then see if its worth doing on BB11.

About voting to evict- yes, people do like to vote to kick them out but equally people like to save their favourites and if their least favourites get saved it only fuels their hate. Hence the success of shows such as X Factor where you vote for your favourite and not who you think is the worst. It makes it a bit more unpredictable at times too.

It is a BB tradition but one that has run its course and one which is now ruining the show. But maybe using the Australian system (vote to save AND evict) would be better than both

I understand where you're coming from with regard to X factor but I feel voters do pick up the phones to genuinely vote for their favourites on a given night. It's more of a talent competition rather than well, lets face it, a bit of a freak show.

Most people who vote on Big Brother do so out of anger rather than praise. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I see it. Sure look at the receptions that the majority of Big Brother contestants are exposed to. That gives you some kind of illustration of the type of show we follow.

[AhmedFan2004]

From a TV perspective it was a success. A bore goes and they make tons of money.

[noirin4eva]

Originally posted by setanta

I understand where you're coming from with regard to X factor but I feel voters do pick up the phones to genuinely vote for their favourites on it. It's more of a talent competition rather than well, lets face it, a bit of a freak show.

Most people who vote on Big Brother do so out of anger rather than praise. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I see it. Sure look at the receptions that the majority of Big Brother contestants are exposed to. That gives you some kind of illustration of the type of show we follow.

Almost every Big brother gets dull going into the last week and i just see this added system as a way of keeping the most the show relevant.

[shash]

should always be vote to save imho, too many big and interesting entertainers get lost to the bland ones (and this is not a criticism of Hira) and it would make the whole show a bit more positive. They could just throw in a surprise vote to evict from time to time perhaps, but I prefer this format.

[setanta]

Originally posted by noirin4eva

Almost every Big brother gets dull going into the last week and i just see this added system as a way of keeping the most the show relevant.

I agree. It's always good to mix it up from time to time. Just wouldn't agree with changing it completely to a vote to save format.

[AhmedFan2004]

They must have made a bomb, Vote to Save with 10 HMs, crikey.

[shash]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
They must have made a bomb, Vote to Save with 10 HMs, crikey.

if they did make significantly more money then I think there is a high chance of them adopting this ...

[BB22]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
They must have made a bomb, Vote to Save with 10 HMs, crikey.

Indeed. They must have coined it in last night.