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If you have watched BB before then you should be aware of how FOOD becomes the almighty subject in the house. Especially if they are on rations.

Therefore opening a precious tin of corned beef is most definitely a big issue. She was being selfish and they called her out on it. As they damn well should!
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some people just dont get it!
it was not selfish... why should vinnie tell her what she does, and when??
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^^^ agree ..
she moans about how people think the can she opened was a big deal but doesn't notice that half of it is in her greedy mouth. lol
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Just because had ABIT of corned beef. Does it give them the right to slate her in every conversation they have.. i think not
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No one in there is a bully though?
Exactly. This 'bully' crap needs to stop.
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It suits some to whip the word bully out of their butts when trying to get sympathy votes.

If I were in there and starving hungry I would have held her upside down and shook her until she threw the corned beef back up again!
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Beat the bullies its her thats the bully the brat
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13:23 Vinnie says Sov needs to be up against someone with a bit more power to get her out #CBB7

13:22 HMs are in the bedroom moaning about Sov #CBB7

14:51 Vinnie tells Nicola that she has to win against Sov....she says she doesn't know how #CBB7

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13:23 Vinnie says Sov needs to be up against someone with a bit more power to get her out #CBB7

13:22 HMs are in the bedroom moaning about Sov #CBB7

14:51 Vinnie tells Nicola that she has to win against Sov....she says she doesn't know how #CBB7

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Yet again, vinnie and sov moaning about sov, lets keep her in, and vote nicola out
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no get sov the bitch out. she's well ugly. at least nicola is fit like karly ashworth
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Send a message to WHAT bullies???? This thread is ridiculous. Sov isolates herself from the house, and when people get fed up with her bs and stop trying to include her, they are a bully? Complete and utter BS on this board if you ask me.
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Even Jonas and Sisqo don't really like her. They have to tolerate her because they all smoke. She's a negative force in there and they want her out....all the HMs do!
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i agree. this is a ridiculous & misleading thread. she is not getting bullied. yes, she's getting talked about because she is annoying a number of housemates but she is not being bullied.

imho she is definitely not safe. she was pretty close to getting the boot the other night.
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If you have watched BB before then you should be aware of how FOOD becomes the almighty subject in the house. Especially if they are on rations.

Therefore opening a precious tin of corned beef is most definitely a big issue. She was being selfish and they called her out on it. As they damn well should!
in actual fact there was enough food to go around,nichola and dane vouched for that,so why does vinnie get rights to tell people what to eat and when to eat it? he wanted to keep it for a supper,dane said there was enough so she ate it.

the ignorance in this thread alone is pretty epic..
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Have to say it, I absolutely love her.
I don't quite know why, but I really do like her & I feel quite sorry for her.
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Have to say it, I absolutely love her.
I don't quite know why, but I really do like her & I feel quite sorry for her.
i love you simone
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Save Sov because she's the only one to bring any excitement to the house.
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No one in there is a bully though?
Except for Sov who uses her rude, arrogant, sneering, selfish, immature, brattish, contemptous attitude to bully the rest of the housemates. Thank god she'll be gone tonight back to "her peeps" - they're welcome to her. Her attitude to other people has demonstrated everything that is wrong with this country, so let's make an example of the arrogant little brat and GET HER OUT!
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in actual fact there was enough food to go around,nichola and dane vouched for that,so why does vinnie get rights to tell people what to eat and when to eat it? he wanted to keep it for a supper,dane said there was enough so she ate it.

the ignorance in this thread alone is pretty epic..
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The ignorance in YOUR post is pretty epic. The selfish little chav did not need to open the corned beef, and she took most of it as well. The incident was not so much about what she actually did but her self serving, ignorant attitude and response to other people's feelings and opinions. She's a typical little spoilt brat who wants what they want and to hell with everyone else, and worse still boasts and brags about it to rub people's faces in it.

It just goes to show what ignorance is being shown by people supporting her who have turned this into some kind of generation war. In fact most young people are NOT like her thank goodness, and despise and avoid chavs like her who lurk on every street corner. Sov is an immature and malicious little wind up merchant, and deserves every bit of criticism she gets.

Hope she sinks back into obscurity once she's kicked out tonight.
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The ignorance in YOUR post is pretty epic. The selfish little chav did not need to open the corned beef, and she took most of it as well. The incident was not so much about what she actually did but her self serving, ignorant attitude and response to other people's feelings and opinions. She's a typical little spoilt brat who wants what they want and to hell with everyone else, and worse still boasts and brags about it to rub people's faces in it.

It just goes to show what ignorance is being shown by people supporting her who have turned this into some kind of generation war. In fact most young people are NOT like her thank goodness, and despise and avoid chavs like her who lurk on every street corner. Sov is an immature and malicious little wind up merchant, and deserves every bit of criticism she gets.

Hope she sinks back into obscurity once she's kicked out tonight.
Angus you are so right, shame the people that support the childish selfish brat can't see it too...
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I kind liked her at first, then I took a closer look at her face and attitude...She's a stupid spoiled *****.
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People should be thinking about why Sov's behaviour seemed to nosedive after being up for nomination. Psychologists have remarked that being nominated is a body blow to a HMs confidence which can be fatal. In most cases, nominations eventually lead to eviction. The feeling of rejection can be very intense, IMHO Sov's reaction to surviving eviction was an indication of just how deeply she had been affected by it. The huge high that came form her survival must surely have been the result of experiencing a massive low.

She tried to get along and find a place in the group in the first week, underneath her tough exterior worried she could not fit in and not connect with anyone. The nomination results crystallised her fears. Realising her effort had failed, she has given up.
When people feel rejected they start to push people away, in order to prevent further rejection. Its a defensive mechanism. They also have to use self-affirmation to boost their confidence, bigging themselves up because they feel no one else will compliment them. If Sov were arrogant, why would she have cut herself?

In order to protect herself from rejection she pushes people away, leading to more rejection. Thus a vicious circle builds.

I think the person we saw in the first week is the real her, and what we have seen since nominations is her insecurity and defensiveness. Its all about rejection, she admitted as much to Sisqo.

The fact she behaved relatively well in the first week and was still nominated indicates to me she is too different to be accepted by the other HMs no matter how she behaves.
Had she been nice as pie she would still be up last week and this week. This set of housemates is the most conservative bunch I have ever seen. Sov is the only non-conformist in the entire line-up. Human beings like people who are to some extent similar to them, they dislike anyone who is overly different. Its human nature.

Looking at class and social background, Sov has the least in common with the least number of other HMs. She has nothing in common with any of them, except maybe Sisqo, but he's American and middle class, so even there it's very limited.
All of her fellow British HMs have no common ground with her at all.

Stephanie: Class differences are insurmountable, nothing in common. The class hostility between her and Sov may be a shock to those deluded people who think class does not matter.
Vinnie: Too controlling, and nothing in common.
Ivana: Absolute Zero common ground.
Dane: Too Middle Class, conformist, no common ground.
Jonas: Too Middle Class, conformist, no common ground.
Stephen: American Bible Basher.

I believe Sov was rejected by the others instantly, before she said or did anything, she's too different, not conservative enough, not middle class enough. Human nature dictates that she would be up regardless of anything due to being not similar enough.

To me its most disturbing that Steven is tolerated in the group, as he is the personification of the "God Botherer" that British people have no time for.

I believe she should stay in, to antagonise the control freaks and elites, and so she can work through her problems by herself. Like most creative people, she's not a social creature so will have to learn to fake it (a skill I have learned over the years).

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She was an immature, spoiled baby before she was even nominated. After that her manic depression went into effect and she started hiding beans.
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Stephanie is being very, very mean towards Sov.
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People should be thinking about why Sov's behaviour seemed to nosedive after being up for nomination. Psychologists have remarked that being nominated is a body blow to a HMs confidence which can be fatal. In most cases, nominations eventually lead to eviction. The feeling of rejection can be very intense, IMHO Sov's reaction to surviving eviction was an indication of just how deeply she had been affected by it. The huge high that came form her survival must surely have been the result of experiencing a massive low.

She tried to get along and find a place in the group in the first week, underneath her tough exterior worried she could not fit in and not connect with anyone. The nomination results crystallised her fears. Realising her effort had failed, she has given up.
When people feel rejected they start to push people away, in order to prevent further rejection. Its a defensive mechanism. They also have to use self-affirmation to boost their confidence, bigging themselves up because they feel no one else will compliment them. If Sov were arrogant, why would she have cut herself?

In order to protect herself from rejection she pushes people away, leading to more rejection. Thus a vicious circle builds.

I think the person we saw in the first week is the real her, and what we have seen since nominations is her insecurity and defensiveness. Its all about rejection, she admitted as much to Sisqo.

The fact she behaved relatively well in the first week and was still nominated indicates to me she is too different to be accepted by the other HMs no matter how she behaves.
Had she been nice as pie she would still be up last week and this week. This set of housemates is the most conservative bunch I have ever seen. Sov is the only non-conformist in the entire line-up. Human beings like people who are to some extent similar to them, they dislike anyone who is overly different. Its human nature.

Looking at class and social background, Sov has the least in common with the least number of other HMs. She has nothing in common with any of them, except maybe Sisqo, but he's American and middle class, so even there it's very limited.
All of her fellow British HMs have no common ground with her at all.

Stephanie: Class differences are insurmountable, nothing in common. The class hostility between her and Sov may be a shock to those deluded people who think class does not matter.
Vinnie: Too controlling, and nothing in common.
Ivana: Absolute Zero common ground.
Dane: Too Middle Class, conformist, no common ground.
Jonas: Too Middle Class, conformist, no common ground.
Stephen: American Bible Basher.

I believe Sov was rejected by the others instantly, before she said or did anything, she's too different, not conservative enough, not middle class enough. Human nature dictates that she would be up regardless of anything due to being not similar enough.

To me its most disturbing that Steven is tolerated in the group, as he is the personification of the "God Botherer" that British people have no time for.

I believe she should stay in, to antagonise the control freaks and elites, and so she can work through her problems by herself. Like most creative people, she's not a social creature so will have to learn to fake it (a skill I have learned over the years).
Great post. Seeing past Sov's self protective post noms defensive mechanisms. She has had alot to deal with poor lamb.
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