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Old 07-05-2010, 11:31 AM #26
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I am hoping for electoral reform to be pushed through, by any means necessary. I have no problem with Clegg co-operating with the Labour party and don't think it will make him a hypocrite (he is a hypocrite anyway) so long as it means the Tories don't have carte blanche in creating legislation... which may make the referendum I'm hoping for impossible.
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I am hoping for electoral reform to be pushed through, by any means necessary. I have no problem with Clegg co-operating with the Labour party and don't think it will make him a hypocrite (he is a hypocrite anyway) so long as it means the Tories don't have carte blanche in creating legislation... which may make the referendum I'm hoping for impossible.
what referendum question are you hoping for?
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Electoral reform, replacing First Past the Post with Proportional Representation. I'm tired of my vote not counting.
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Electoral reform, replacing First Past the Post with Proportional Representation. I'm tired of my vote not counting.
oh ... like the Greek or Italian system? not good dude. And your equally likely to feel as though your vote didn't count. That's democracy mate ... just because your choice didn't win doesn't mean your vote was wasted.
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****ers. Conservative are winning more seats.

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oh ... like the Greek or Italian system? not good dude. And your equally likely to feel as though your vote didn't count. That's democracy mate ... just because your choice didn't win doesn't mean your vote was wasted.
Tell that to someone who lives in a 70% Labour stronghold with a small population. I simply don't like...

1. My vote being rendered null and void when it comes to deciding the ruling party or even the main opposition.

2. Having no opportunity to vote for an independent candidate when I still have misgivings about the policies of all three main parties.

3. The electorate being consigned to tactical voting as a means to an end as opposed to voting for the party which actually represents their ideology.

Don't get me wrong, I recognise the weaknesses of PR and not every MP will an accurate representation of the the interests of their constituents, but at a national level, it the more democratic system.

Plus, anyone can draw comparisons to other countries with different political systems. What about the US and the failure the electoral college system which gave Bush an extremely dubious victory in 2000? I just think PR would work for the UK and believe a referendum would show that I am not the only one.
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Lib/Lab/other progressive parties joined together...Libs and Cons are quite removed idealogicaly for it to work unless the Tories are going to do some major bending over
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Lol, that ludicrously oversimplified view of left and right on the poster made me think how much of a stereotypical boring conservative my dad is.
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Lib/Lab definantly but unfortunately I think Clegg is edging towards Cameron :'(
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If it takes an overall majority of 326 seats to govern, then a Lab/Lib coalition won't wash, since together they will have only 315 seats. A Con/Lib coalition will give an overall majority of 363 seats which will provide an effective government.

Therefore if a Lab/Lib coalition is still only a minority government, then Cameron has more right to govern as such already. END OF.
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If it takes an overall majority of 326 seats to govern, then a Lab/Lib coalition won't wash, since together they will have only 315 seats. A Con/Lib coalition will give an overall majority of 363 seats which will provide an effective government.

Therefore if a Lab/Lib coalition is still only a minority government, then Cameron has more right to govern as such already. END OF.
Funny how I got told off for 'END OF' yesterday. That isn't true anyway, they could fill the extra seats with another minority party.
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I want the green party to win at heart though.
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Labour Lost
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Lib/Lab/other progressive parties joined together...Libs and Cons are quite removed idealogicaly for it to work unless the Tories are going to do some major bending over
I think Cameron would try and go the extra step to get the Lib Dem support but it will take some convincing the rest of his party, especially those to the right, to give in to the Lib Dems.
I just can't see it happening and if it does I wouldn't expect it to last more than 6months
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Conservatives technically lost too, since they didnt manage to get a majority

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