[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by Locke.

JJ on Andrew not taking being up for eviction well 'Grow the **** up', 'hack it...if you can't hack it, ****** off'

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

OP

The comments were true
heaven forbid a hm to voice a comment on another hm
what ever will they think of next?

The comments may well be true, but i think the point is - they're pretty rich coming from - a 24yr male who still lives at home with their mum, follows Josie around 80% of the time, cries or attempts/wants to escape every time they have an argument, and spent much of the first week he was nominated in paranoia...speculating he was going.

He's hardly some kind of - "rebel without a cause", himself!

[smudgie]

It was the sheer hypocrocy that got me, "if you can't hack it then get your jacket". He repeated it a few times. He also aimed it at Ben for moaning he had a bad week Now Ben may have moaned but he has always said he is not a quitter, unlike the mega performances we have had from JJ. This from the twit that had to have Josie go to the diary room to bring him back the first time he cried his crab eyes out, and JJ and Dave to "persuade" him not to go when he went through the fire exit the second time.
The pathetic bleating about how he would get out of bed if the public voted for him to stay. How he was not bothered as he just spent all his time in bed. So if he goes he does not mind as he just stays in bed or if he stays he will get out of bed, the fella is bed obsessed.
He was certainly doing a hatchet job on Ben, waffling on about how could someone walk after 7 weeks when the most that JJ2 could ever have would be less than 7 weeks. ermm, Ben has not walked or threatened to walk, unlike wuss face himself.
Dave was just as bad if not worse, he is supposed to be Ben's friend,
Talk about a pair of desperate cut throats who have shown exactly what they are made of now they are up for eviction.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Just a couple of things he has said on live feed tonight in a rant to Josie and Dave:

JJ on Andrew not taking being up for eviction well 'Grow the **** up', 'hack it...if you can't hack it, ****** off'

JJ on Corin: "She would jump over someone with a broken leg to stay in the programme"

Apparently he's been insulting Mario, Steve and Ben aswell.

None of this to their faces of course.

The type of people crab eyes attracts will think all that is great stuff,they are such hypocrites as if Ben had said any of this they would have been on here like a rat up a drainpipe,they moan when Bem tells the truth but crabeyes the cretin could kill their granny and they'de be still worshipping him.I am so glad I am not one of those sheep.

[ibook4113]

Originally Posted by kazanne

The type of people crab eyes attracts will think all that is great stuff,they are such hypocrites as if Ben had said any of this they would have been on here like a rat up a drainpipe,they moan when Bem tells the truth but crabeyes the cretin could kill their granny and they'de be still worshipping him.I am so glad I am not one of those sheep.

Ben says stuff like this often, he just doesn't use swearing. You don't need to swear to make something an insult.

AND Ben HAS threatened to leave before, when he said that he could get enough sleep because Rachel was being loud. And he said it a few times. Ben wouldn't walk because he doesn't have guts to.

Ben also doesn't show any of his emotions, he holds them back most of the time? How is that real?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jack_

All true though, let's be honest.

so is what ben says but he gets slated for it,lets be honest

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by ibook4113

Ben says stuff like this often, he just doesn't use swearing. You don't need to swear to make something an insult.

AND Ben HAS threatened to leave before, when he said that he could get enough sleep because Rachel was being loud. And he said it a few times. Ben wouldn't walk because he doesn't have guts to.

Ben also doesn't show any of his emotions, he holds them back most of the time? How is that real?

If Ben has said the same things as you say,you were all here slating him ,so why not crabby?Ben has said he wants to leave but he doesn't want to be a QUITTER,he will be happy Friday unlike crabby who got halfway out and come back

[ibook4113]

Originally Posted by kazanne

If Ben has said the same things as you say,you were all here slating him ,so why not crabby?Ben has said he wants to leave but he doesn't want to be a QUITTER,he will be happy Friday unlike crabby who got halfway out and come back

I can see valid reasons for JJ getting upset and wanting to leave. Ben was just complaining as he usually does, trying to pull the attention back to him.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by ibook4113

I can see valid reasons for JJ getting upset and wanting to leave. Ben was just complaining as he usually does, trying to pull the attention back to him.

Oh please,that is a wind up........right?

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Jack_

All true though, let's be honest.

As usual, JJ is one of the biggest hypocrites in there - definitely the biggest cry-baby!

[ibook4113]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Oh please,that is a wind up........right?

See it the way you want to see it but Ben is a selfish, two faced, child. At least JJ is honest, he would happily confirm what he said to any of those people, they might not like it, but it is true.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Why are people sayign its the truth when he dosent say it to their faces? Hes jsut as bad as ben!

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by ibook4113

See it the way you want to see it but Ben is a selfish, two faced, child. At least JJ is honest, he would happily confirm what he said to any of those people, they might not like it, but it is true.

Funniest quote of the day so far.
He is so flippin' "honest" he is sharing a shower with Mario and talking about who will go etc, no talk in there about Mario being a moaner etc, JJ is no more honest than his sidekick last night Dave.

[ibook4113]

To be honest they are all as bad as each other. and yes, if everyone is so bothered about JJ saying what he said then why is Dave or Josie not being questioned. They never questioned what he said.

[Julie10]

Originally Posted by Jack_

He is right though...most of them are too obsessed with the programme. Not that I particularly care myself, but he's entitled to his opinion.



If he was referring to himself it sounds like an even bigger reason to keep him in.

Oh get out of town. Obsessed he flew all the way from Austrailia, has watched BB and knows every trick in the book, tears, romance, breaking out of the house. Hes entitled to his opinions but that doesn't stop him being a hypocritical two face buffoon. Hes the biggest obsessive in there.

[Julie10]

Originally Posted by JHB

Truth hurts I suppose. John J was telling the truth , what about Ben he cannot go five mins without bitching about someone.

Neither can John so they are both alike!

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Jack_

All true though, let's be honest.

No, no it is not, hes far more in the game than anybody else in there!

Lets see this side come out to play again, just when hes up for eviction - unless it doesnt get shown.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

So why do you like him Jack - nothing to do with his looks and the fact you fancy him - no, it couldn't possibly be that simple could it!

Oh that pathetic assumption again. To be quite honest, I don't even find him that attractive. And if you honestly think I base my favourite housemates on how attractive I find them then are you seriously suggesting I found people like Marcus and Rex attractive? What a joke.

I never have and never will base my favourite Big Brother housemates on appearance. I base it on who is the most important/influential/entertaining...something which everyone should do...but don't.

Originally Posted by kazanne

so is what ben says but he gets slated for it,lets be honest

I don't particularly have a problem with Ben myself.

Originally Posted by Julie10

Oh get out of town. Obsessed he flew all the way from Austrailia, has watched BB and knows every trick in the book, tears, romance, breaking out of the house. Hes entitled to his opinions but that doesn't stop him being a hypocritical two face buffoon. Hes the biggest obsessive in there.

...true, but he's still more influential and important to the show than the rest of them.

[Beastie]

Jack.. you are like a bitter troll on here!! lol

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by ibook4113

See it the way you want to see it but Ben is a selfish, two faced, child. At least JJ is honest, he would happily confirm what he said to any of those people, they might not like it, but it is true.

HONEST,pmsl,he goes in the DR and tells a nation he looks on Josie as a sister figure and is not attracted to her,then hops into bed with her and tells his big sister he loves her,you are welcome to tthe hypocritical loser.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Jords

No, no it is not, hes far more in the game than anybody else in there!

Lets see this side come out to play again, just when hes up for eviction - unless it doesnt get shown.

I don't believe that for a second, but even if it was true, why should it matter? It's a gameshow afterall, right?

Only in pathetic moral Britian would someone be criticised for having a gameplan in a gameshow

The bottom line is - he has been one of the most influential housemates this series, and without him half of it would've fallen flat on its face. No conflict, no storylines. Nothing. It'd have just been a bunch of pointless, dull non-entities making small talk getting along like a house on fire.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I don't believe that for a second, but even if it was true, why should it matter? It's a gameshow afterall, right?

Only in pathetic moral Britian would someone be criticised for having a gameplan in a gameshow

The bottom line is - he has been one of the most influential housemates this series, and without him half of it would've fallen flat on its face. No conflict, no storylines. Nothing. It'd have just been a bunch of pointless, dull non-entities making small talk getting along like a house on fire.

Then he shouldnt be hypocritical and accuse others of being 'too into the game'!

If you find some showmance interesting, real or fake, fair do's, I for one and many others are bored sh!tless with it. We have seen so many of them, enough is enough, they steal all the HLs and its boring. And as for his arguing, its always so petty, get somebody who causes real drama in, not some idiot that bitches like a high school girl, boring stuff. Earlier on in the series he was essential, but now its the complete reverse and I think hes the cause of the show being dull.

[LemonJam]

I love it when Ben supporters of all people moan at John James for bitching. Beautiful really.

[Jords]

Ben does his fair share of bitching too, but nobody is biggin' him up as some Victor/Science type of character, people think John James is one of them but hes nothing like it (not that I usually like them characters, theyre good for the house though ).

I love Ben because I find him hilarious and is a decent person, lazy yes, but trustworthy and respectable and he always remains cool in situations. John James really mocks who he is bitching about, Ben is much more suttle and does it to get stress of his chest imo.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Jords

Then he shouldnt be hypocritical and accuse others of being 'too into the game'!

That would be part of his 'game' though...it's like a diversion technique. Accuse the others and then it people are less likely to accuse him.

Originally Posted by Jords

If you find some showmance interesting, real or fake, fair do's, I for one and many others are bored sh!tless with it. We have seen so many of them, enough is enough, they steal all the HLs and its boring. And as for his arguing, its always so petty, get somebody who causes real drama in, not some idiot that bitches like a high school girl, boring stuff. Earlier on in the series he was essential, but now its the complete reverse and I think hes the cause of the show being dull.

I'm indifferent towards the 'showmance'. It's a bit too late to bring a firecracker in, and even if they did try to, with the choice of housemates this year, they've got absolutely no chance. We've just got to put up with who we've got. And also, chances are, ratings would begin to drop if he left anyway, because let's be honest, the majority of young girls outside of this forum are probably watching because of the 'showmance'. So in theory, by wanting to evict him, you are wanting to kill the last ever series of your [supposedly] favourite TV show.

I wouldn't have a problem with him going if we had any other big characters that'll cause conflict/storylines and the like, I really wouldn't. But the fact of the matter is, we don't. We have a bunch of dull people that will all get on like a house on fire and make small talk about the dullest of things. It was bad enough once Shabby left...once John goes, well...

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Jords

people think John James is one of them but hes nothing like it

I don't, he's not even one of the 'BB legends' yet. None of them this year. Because they're all ****ing awful housemates. John James/Shabby and at some points Ben were the best out of a bad bunch. If he was in another better year, I doubt I'd like him. Because he's not even that great a housemate, I'm not going to dispute that. But he is one of the best this year...and for that reason, he should stay.