[elliebrew]

r you going to JJs eviction this week ange....you can tell him how much you love him and how much you fought his corner...

Not that he' 'give a rip'

prob wont even thank you

[Shardlake]

The only thing thats spoilt it for me is this 'romance' with John James and Josie.

I really do not want to sit watching and listening to the two of them be all luvey duvey and kissing and cuddling. It makes me want to vomit.

They should not allow them into the beds during the day

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

there will be 3 days lft till the final after friday...hes been kept in till the final week so people could be entertained....tjhe last s days can be boring i dont care i just want him out now!!! Hes come far enough

But chances are this is the last proper BB final we'll ever have, don't you want to it be...you know....watchable? Corin's gonna be danger now so if She, Sam and John goes then the final will be full of bores and we'll have a predictable result.

I just want a watchable final, because at the moment I'm just gonna save myself 2 hours of bother and just fastforward to the UBB launch.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Sunshine was entertaining, Ben was entertaining. You dont need to be an utter bitter twat to be entertaining. John was entertaining upto a few weeks ago, since then all he does is constantly bitch and moan. Thats not entertainment, thats irritating.

9 weeks of entertainment isn't a bad haul from a housemate..makes him worthy winners material in my humble opinion.


It is by far a lot better than some sad act repeated daily in the diary room by a desperate witch.

[smudgie]

I don't think JJames has ruined the series.
I do not like his personality, but we need varied personalities to make a show. The way he acts brings about other people's reactions that we may not have seen otherwise. The same as I am not fussed on Dave, but he is an integral part of the show, as are the bores.
Having people with certain traits may change the course of the series, but not ruin it.






Now to get JJames and Dave out.

[elliebrew]

people dont dislike corin enough to vote her out....shell be fine

[Beso]

Just imagine if he hadn't been in the house. Tumbleweed anyone?

[ange7]

Originally Posted by Stevep

ah ok! lol tactic backfired!

Well what i was gonna say was why do many john james fans see Johns bitching as being 'real' yet see kievers moans as her being 'bitchy'.

lol...we aren't all he same.
On JJ bitching.
When JJ bitches he says stuff that he's already said to the person who he's talking about. He'll bitch about Corin being fake but Corin already knows he thinks that since he said it to her loads of times. JJ has bitched that Mario is a super fan and making it far means the world to him. Mario knows what JJ thinks again because JJ is frank and upfront with that stuff and has said it to his face. Others in the house bitch and moan too but they are less upfront when they are speaking to that person.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

people dont dislike corin enough to vote her out....shell be fine

Don't be so sure, she has an argument tonight and she's a character. I'd be a bit more worried if I were you.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

people dont dislike corin enough to vote her out....shell be fine

wouldn't be so sure of that.

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Just imagine if he hadn't been in the house. Tumbleweed anyone?

Other stories will have developed. Nathan would of still been in for a start. After john james getting the whole house and public against her Rachal may not have had been evicted in week one, she may have proved to be a decent character.

The house would have been totaly different, its not as simple as 'if he werent in the house it would of been ****e'.

[rusticgal]

Quite the opposite....if the only point you make is him failing to do the dickens thing...thats pathetic.He sacrificed 50.00 towards the shopping budget.... had it been the whole budget he might have done it.... Rachel simply wasnt worth 50.00.

John James has been totally upfront...said things many are too scared to voice...unless its been behind peoples backs.He has discussed people like we do on this forum...
He has made this series.... and deserves to win.

[Julie10]

Originally Posted by ange7

"You don't see others getting away with it so why should he?"
get ready for a shock....!
because not everyone thinks EXACTLY like you do.

Don't be so stupid! I am saying the whole thing with him smacks of double standards. Nearly everyone moans as soon as someone as an argumentative streak and bays for their blood and calls them all the names under the sun, but its entertaining when its someone they like.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Your reading into things too much. There is no game plan and there are no canniving activities, all there is is malicious bitching.

Well said. JJ1 is NOT gameplaying with Corin, he just wants revenge for her having the audacity to talk back to him - her a mere mortal woman, to HIM, the great John James! I'm not a Corin fan by any means, but rather she won this than John James or his gross thumbsucking, nosepicking, duvet partner.

[Sunday]

And I would say, he has been in a long time and not been evicted, so he must be well liked by most the voters.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Quite the opposite....if the only point you make is him failing to do the dickens thing...thats pathetic.He sacrificed 50.00 towards the shopping budget.... had it been the whole budget he might have done it.... Rachel simply wasnt worth 50.00.

John James has been totally upfront...said things many are too scared to voice...unless its been behind peoples backs.He has discussed people like we do on this forum...
He has made this series.... and deserves to win.

well hes not gonna, theres your winner.......right there........................vvvvvvvv

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Other stories will have developed. Nathan would of still been in for a start. After john james getting the whole house and public against her Rachal may not have had been evicted in week one, she may have proved to be a decent character.

The house would have been totaly different, its not as simple as 'if he werent in the house it would of been ****e'.

mighta mighta...it wasn't though, and john james has been this years bb by a mile..most deserving winner? hell no, but deserves to be in the final for being the big draw this year.

[NettoSuperstar!]

John James has been one of the best HM's of the series, I generally agree with a lot of what he says about Corin, Mario etc

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Other stories will have developed. Nathan would of still been in for a start. After john james getting the whole house and public against her Rachal may not have had been evicted in week one, she may have proved to be a decent character.

The house would have been totaly different, its not as simple as 'if he werent in the house it would of been ****e'.

Rachael's a decent point but if Nathan was interesting they'd have shown it. They generally love that type of character, If John James wasn't in that house Nathan would have still been a none entity in the house because he wasn't interesting. He basically never featured until the week he got evicted.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

well hes not gonna, theres your winner.......right there........................vvvvvvvv

No, it's going to be Josie. Haven't you got BB's memo?

[ange7]

Originally Posted by Julie10

Don't be so stupid! I am saying the whole thing with him smacks of double standards. Nearly everyone moans as soon as someone as an argumentative streak and bays for their blood and calls them all the names under the sun, but its entertaining when its someone they like.

lol...rude.
Think of it another way.
say you dislike a hm, eg I think Corin is fake and desperate. Then JJ says that to her face, or tells Mario that he is a bb fanatic. It's entertaining to hear JJ say what I was thinking and see how they handle it. I don't agree that EVERYONE moans about argumentative hms... so no double standards there.

[Julesuk]

Originally Posted by 30stone

Series would have fallen on it ass without the arguments john has caused.

Spot on - I dont get what viewers want from this programme sometimes - do they want to watch a group of people sat on a settee discussing the state of the economy.

If John James (love or hate him) had not been in this series it would have been dire - you only have to look at the amount of threads about him. He deserves to be there till the final and would be if it was vote to save - but they cant do that because of giving Josie the free pass.

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by parmnion

mighta mighta...it wasn't though, and john james has been this years bb by a mile..most deserving winner? hell no, but deserves to be in the final for being the big draw this year.

Not mighta, would definitely of been different.

And i agree, he deserves to be in the final or close to the final, just dont think he should win it.

I can see both sides of the argument though. Totally understand why people see him as being entertaining and therefore a deserved winner but can also understand people seeing him be a total wanker and wanting him out double time.

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by ange7

lol...we aren't all he same.
On JJ bitching.
When JJ bitches he says stuff that he's already said to the person who he's talking about. He'll bitch about Corin being fake but Corin already knows he thinks that since he said it to her loads of times. JJ has bitched that Mario is a super fan and making it far means the world to him. Mario knows what JJ thinks again because JJ is frank and upfront with that stuff and has said it to his face. Others in the house bitch and moan too but they are less upfront when they are speaking to that person.

fair enough : )

But just to add, I agree he says his opinions to peoples faces (some of the time) which is credit to him, but its just the sheer volume of bitching that annoys me.

[Julesuk]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Quite the opposite....if the only point you make is him failing to do the dickens thing...thats pathetic.He sacrificed 50.00 towards the shopping budget.... had it been the whole budget he might have done it.... Rachel simply wasnt worth 50.00.

John James has been totally upfront...said things many are too scared to voice...unless its been behind peoples backs.He has discussed people like we do on this forum...
He has made this series.... and deserves to win.

I dont know if he should win but definitely agree with the rest and should be there in the final.