[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by lostalex

That's complete crap, i watched it live the whole time, and Jeff had a lead the whole time. Stop trying to push yur obnoxious conspiracy theories plzz.

It's fine to be upset about Jeff winning, but stop tryna blame the producers.

I watched it live too. The whole beginning before the feeds went off for some time was too close to tell. People who wanted Jeff to win saw Jeff in the lead. People who wanted Porsche to win saw Jordan in the lead. Hell, people who wanted Jordan to win saw Jordan in the lead (yes, some people actually thought this.) That whole first third or so of the Competition was too close to actually tell who was in the lead. People just saw what they wanted to see, but all seven were just about even. And I didn't say anything about a conspiracy theory or blaming the producers so I don't know why you're trying to put words into my mouth.

[smartalec2718]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

I watched it live too. The whole beginning before the feeds went off for some time was too close to tell. People who wanted Jeff to win saw Jeff in the lead. People who wanted Porsche to win saw Jordan in the lead. Hell, people who wanted Jordan to win saw Jordan in the lead (yes, some people actually thought this.) That whole first third or so of the Competition was too close to actually tell who was in the lead. People just saw what they wanted to see, but all seven were just about even. And I didn't say anything about a conspiracy theory or blaming the producers so I don't know why you're trying to put words into my mouth.

Yeah, lostalex is a JeJo Kool-Aid drinker so I wouldn't set too much store by his words. As long as Daniele doesn't get evicted I don't much care what happens this week - though it would be pretty funny if Porsche and Kalia went up pre-veto then Dani won the veto and pulled one of them off, forcing Jeff to nom one of his own.

[Callum]

This sucks. Did not want this, can see either Kalia or Porsche leaving this week. Even if Dani does go up, she's amazing at Vetos so she'll take herself off.

[Corkie]

If he nominates 2 of the Daniele , Kalia or Porsche alliance hopefully the one who is not nominated wins veto so they take one off the nominees of the block meaning they can't be put up as replacement nominee. Resulting in Jeff being in an awkward position of putting up someone from his alliance.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by smartalec2718

Yeah, lostalex is a JeJo Kool-Aid drinker so I wouldn't set too much store by his words. As long as Daniele doesn't get evicted I don't much care what happens this week - though it would be pretty funny if Porsche and Kalia went up pre-veto then Dani won the veto and pulled one of them off, forcing Jeff to nom one of his own.

i wasn't watching it alone, i was watching it on justintv with plenty of other people who were not JJ fans and they all were talking about jeff being in the lead and they were not happy about it, so sorry, you can't just dismiss me as blindinded by JJ.

Yu guys are being paranoid, like Hitler against jews. Heil Dani!

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i wasn't watching it alone, i was watching it on justintv with plenty of other people who were not JJ fans and they all were talking about jeff being in the lead and they were not happy about it, so sorry, you can't just dismiss me as blindinded by JJ.

Yu guys are being paranoid, like Hitler against jews. Heil Dani!

Before the feeds went out for a significant amount of time, it was a dead heat. That's a fact. The people I was watching it with were all debating about whether Jordan was in the lead, Porsche was, or Jeff was. It was all too close to tell. Jeff didn't get a definitive lead until after the feeds came back.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Before the feeds went out for a significant amount of time, it was a dead heat. That's a fact. The people I was watching it with were all debating about whether Jordan was in the lead, Porsche was, or Jeff was. It was all too close to tell. Jeff didn't get a definitive lead until after the feeds came back.

WTF, Jordan was NEVER anywhere CLOSE to the lead. So you just showed that you had absolutely no perspective on the situation at all.

It was always between Porche, Jeff and Rachel.. Jordan was never even remotely close.

So you think BB turned off the feeds, poured extra liquid into jeff's container, and then turned them back on? SERIOUSLY? WTF dude, why do you even bother watching if you actually believe that nonsense.m That is the stupidest thing i've heard in a long while.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by lostalex

WTF, Jordan was NEVER anywhere CLOSE to the lead. So you just showed that you had absolutely no perspective on the situation at all.

It was always between Porche, Jeff and Rachel.. Jordan was never even remotely close.

So you think BB turned off the feeds, poured extra liquid into jeff's container, and then turned them back on? SERIOUSLY? WTF dude, why do you even bother watching if you actually believe that nonsense.m That is the stupidest thing i've heard in a long while.

I didn't say that I thought Jordan was in the lead, but that's what other people said in the chat while I was watching. So once again don't put words into my mouth ^_^

Rachel wasn't in contention in the beginning. She got off to a really bad start and was playing catch up the whole time, so maybe that shows that YOU have absolutely no perspective on the situation at all? Hmm...

And no I never said that, nor did I imply that All I said was that there was not a definitive leader until after the feeds came back on, as opposed to you thinking Jeff lead the whole time. When the feeds went off, Porsche and Jeff were neck and neck. But once the feeds came back on, that's only when Jeff had a definitive lead. I never said they poured water in his thing, I just said that when the feeds were off, that's when Jeff pulled away from Porsche.

[lostalex]

So then what are you trying to imply by saying Jeff was more in the lead when the feeds came back on. Sorry, i'm so used to your conspiracy theories, i assumed this was another one. If i'm mistaken, i apologize.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by lostalex

So then what are you trying to imply by saying Jeff was more in the lead when the feeds came back on. Sorry, i'm so used to your conspiracy theories, i assumed this was another one. If i'm mistaken, i apologize.

I'm not implying anything, I'm just saying that Jeff wasn't in the lead when the feeds went off (way too close to tell for certain who was in the lead at that point. Jeff may have been, he may not have been), but when the feeds came back on, he had a definite lead.

[Marc]

I am not at all surprised he won HoH.

A physical task when he has Rachel/Porsche as his toughest competitors.