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It means they will stand on there own feet. It makes great sense as many predict we are in a 10 year down turn. Last edited by arista; 24-10-2011 at 01:18 PM. |
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Not a Problem as Asda Walmart buys so much I will get the best Worldwide deal price on a big box of Pure Butter Scottish Shortbread. Exclusive Deal to Asda Walmart. Cheaper than trade prices. |
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mmmmmmmm and tablet too |
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"good stuff as we keep that here."
You do not know. AsdaWalmart buys direct. |
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It won't change how I view the Scots but it'll change how I view the UK if Scotland isn't part of the UK anymore
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We have a top secret vault where the best shortbread is kept. It is protected by sabre toothed haggises. AsdaWalmart cannot buy direct. Sign of the times.
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I do know I buy Quality. With Made In Scotland on it. You can have your 'special' mix I am Overjoyed with Pure Butter Scottish Shortbread Utter Quality at AsdaWalmart. Feel The Force. |
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I personally would be very sad indeed if Scotland was fully independent,I love the Country and the people.
My hope is that more in the devolution process can keep Scotland as part of the UK. I also still doubt the Scots would vote for full independence though. Scotland,as has Wales and England too been badly served by Govts. of both major parties and now as they were turning a fair bit more to the Lib Dems, they have let them down badly too. Alex Salmond is a really great leader for Scotland and has his finger far more on the pulse than near all Westminster politicians. I am of Scottish ancestry on my Dad's side and Independent or not I will always look on the Scots as good people and a great Country. I just hope we all stay together though. |
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No it will be Fun. And he can pick the €uro in 2015 or stay with his own pound. I will Fly up to the New Nation be great for New Trade Deals. In Dollars. Feel The Force. Last edited by arista; 25-10-2011 at 10:22 AM. |
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Good luck to them if thats what they decide to do it is fuelled by the wrong reasons but hey ho.
P.S. Arista keep your asda muck its Deans of Huntly shortbread or nothing! |
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Cameron's great Scottish gamble: Premier wants to force early vote on independence
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1ixJ1ZdmM Of Course the PM may ask but it will be a No. ![]() Dave and Alex sort it out. Let Scotland be Free. |
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I've always been confused about the UK system between "countries". Like for instance, do the "countries" of the UK have more or less independence and freedom than the individual States in the US? Do the "countries" in the UK have the ability to make their own laws and stuff like the individual US states? Make their own tax system? their judicial systems? their own gambling laws, drug laws, drinking laws, etc??
I know when the Lockerbie bomber was released, the Uk government said "Scotland made this decision, not the UK", so that said to me that Scotland already has some kind of judicial freedom atleast. I'd really like to understand more about the Uk system before i make a judgement of whether Scotland is being reasonable or not.
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Yes Scotland has its own Law System.
He could apply to join the Deadly €uro, if Scotland gets free but he gets in a waiting list as other nations are ahead of him |
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Remembering Kerry
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Why doesn't Mr. Cameron and the coalition pull the rug from under Alex Salmond's feet and have the referendum anyway with 3 options, No or Yes to independence and also another option for greater devolution with more control particularly over finance.
In all fact, an SNP referendum for independence would not be binding on the UK Govt as a whole, so Mr. Cameron would need to consult the rest of the UK as well. However, he could have a referendum on the issue, claiming the SNP had brought it to a head and the matter needed clearing up once and for all. I still don't think the Scots would vote for full independence but one thing is sure Alex Salmond has his finger on the pulse of Scotland, he has served them well as First Minister. The independence of a part of the UK has to be granted though by the UK Parliament, so all this huffing and puffing by David Cameron is meaningless unless he himself goes ahead and decided to hold a referendum on the issue and he could hold it throughout the whole of the UK too. It wasn't in the Conservative's manifesto but he would get this through Parliament easily to hold a referendum on the issue,he has wasted plenty of finance and resources on other things, this one more won't make much difference and he may even come out of it with some credibility and be the leader who in the end settled the Scottish independence issue and maybe even managed to hold the UK together too. Last edited by joeysteele; 09-01-2012 at 10:58 AM. |
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"Mr. Cameron would need to consult the rest of the UK as well."
We in England would Vote for a Republic of Scotland as the Money we spend on them would come back to us. |
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I think it's kinda like the French Quebecois in Canada. I think they consider themselves a cultural minority in their own country, but i think deep down they still identify with their country. I can't imagine the Scots or the Quebecois being trully independent countries.
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Scotland actually doing things a lot better than us, health care, planning.. it's a shame we can't just take lessons from them
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Give them their referendum... and then regardless of the outcome, give the English a referendum and ask them the same question.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/ja...ameron-salmond
Yes but asking for binding contract Early is the Problem. Alex wants it end of 2014 or 2015 |
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