[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by JTM45

The housemates didn't know what her mum was talking about and we, (the viewers) don't know what she's talking about and we've seen exactly the same footage as she has.

It looks to me like Jem's just got all spiteful because she usually gets her own way and because Aaron hasn't let her have her own way she's making stuff up and swearing to Faye that 'stuff' has happened which (ever so conveniently for her) she can't talk about.

It was nice to see Faye/Jem's mum being told what the viewers think of her daughter and her huge biased opinions on BBBOTS. Stupid, spiteful bint!!!!

To an extent yes, but you do see a lot of extra footage on the net though so you could say Tibb members get to see more of what's going on.

Also there were 5 voters nominating for Aaron tonight, all giving similar reasons, are they all spiteful bints? or is there another explanation.

One explanation is Aaron is using Faye
Another explanation is BB is Editing him to look bad.

I don't blame Faye's mum here.

[terryecosse]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Also there were 5 voters nominating for Aaron tonight, all giving similar reasons, are they all spiteful bints? or is there another explanation.

The other explanation is the production team telling them who to vote for and what to say.

As they say up here in Glasgow, "I smell sh!te".

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by terryecosse

The other explanation is the production team telling them who to vote for and what to say.

As they say up here in Glasgow, "I smell sh!te".

Not for me, far to risky, and would be against the law i'd guess.

Makes a great Theory though to add to the rest.

[Raven]

The blowing hot and cold, screwing with her emotions causing her to over-react and look bad, the fact he is so OBVIOUSLY playing a game with her.... which started with Tom, upgraded to Faye, tried to upgrade to maisy but aaron found she wasn't as vulnerable to his manipulation as he found faye was so he bounced back to her

Plenty for a parent to distrust and dispise when they see such a predator reeling in their daughter!

I know I'd react similarly if it was my son in there being treated like that by some femme-fatale (He's only slightly younger than Faye is!), I'd be voting the bitch out, just like faye's mum voted against aaron and for similar reasons.

[Vicky.]

I have 2 grown up children, a son and daughter and I have never and would never interfere in their relationships. My job as a mother was to raise them to be independent adults capable of making their own mistakes and decisions.

I will always support them even if I don't agree with their decisions and I would always be there to pick up the pieces but I would never interfere and I would certainly never mess with my child's mind like that on national television. If you love your children you allow them to have their own opinions and you respect those opinions even if you don't agree.

From somewhere else. I agree with this post 100%. This is how a good parent would think IMO

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

From somewhere else. I agree with this post 100%. This is how a good parent would think IMO

That makes sense yes, When your Son or Daughter is not in a house and the Mother is watching the House, and maybe feels they have seen things the kid hasn't.

You know as well as the rest how the editing has gone this year, hard not to see Faye's Mum, not being influenced by it.

Under them circumstances should she get involved? maybe a fairer question is could she stop yourself.

[Benjamin]

Honestly, I believe she is worried about her daughter. Faye is still young and a little naive to the world and of course her mum would be worried about her just like I'm sure many of your mums would be about you in a similar situation.

[exoticrosebud]

i think she should just butt out and let Faye decide for herself. I also think that Fayes tears are a little false! If she was going to enter into some kind of 'relationship' in there, whe should have gone with the flow, had a laugh and a good time and took it for what it was...and if it worked out later great......not keep bloody asking him all the time how he feels about her, does he like her family etc etc..stomping off when he didnt answer her after she was butting into the conversation and making him feel awful..(he did go after her)......thats the actions of a silly little girl playing at 'wanna be grown up in a relationship' and if she is a blood wrestler, i will eat my hat !!! get some balls girl and tell your sister that she has ruined what might have been and tell your mother to back off !!

[Cromwell1900]

Her criticism of him on Bots last night saying he'd told Rebeckah he likes her, then turning around and saying he hates her, is the sign of a deceptive man.

With that in mind it's not hard to see how her Mum & Gem could not feel they have an insight into Aaron that Faye does not.

Gem told Faye she thought he was playing a game, and thought it Possible he was messing with her(anything else?) in the convo in the bathroom that Jay & Aaron watched, this was his reason for not accepting her Olive Branch when she offered it, to me that is worthy of criticism, as if i was Aaron i would understand that Gem had heard me say im playing a game, relating it to Faye was her sisterly duty.

As for Mrs Palmers actions, how dare anyone tell a Mother how to treat her Daughter quite frankly.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by crocs

I always understood this as banter between Harry and Aaron and as their sarcastic humour. It's funny how we understand the same thing in so many ways. I'm a very sarcastic person and as I've seen that side in Harry and Aaron, I assumed it being sarcasm. Many times my friends have trouble understanding when I'm joking and when I'm being serious as they don't see the difference. I always assumed that this was the case in their discussion (I mean from the audience's point of view). First they were being sarcastic and switched to being serious.

What we have here is

1. Edited Version of the conversation in the Hl Show
2. Less Edited version Online. (although with no Fb you don't get to see it)

Not so bad if the editing team are responsible in there editing of the Hl version(Fat Chance). I was told last night by a Tibb member that the Online version showed Aaron denying the insinuation's i felt he was making with the

"The whole relationship thing, the Attention to detail is unreal"

Line from the Hl version. Without hearing that denial i was left an impression that Aaron was in agreement. An impression that wasn't shifted till last night. After being told he had denied it.

Both Gem & her Mum, would of likely seen the same edited version as me, and likely drawn a similar conclusion from it. Certainly they are as Anti Aaron as i was. We have 2 versions of the same show going on & BB don't seem to give a damn about it, & If anyone needed a better excuse to throw into the faces of BB execs, when next year & LF are discussed then this twin Version approach is one.

It's been said many times BB are the ones to blame, and for me, Gem & her Mum may be victims of BB, at least in regards this conversation and examples similar.