[lucyann]

Originally Posted by Marmalite

You need to understand that we are only seeing a few minutes at a time of the whole situation - we have no idea what Jay (or Louise for that matter) have said or done and what has been edited out because BB are wanting to portray the situation in a certain light.

Aaron has said numerous times he doesn't like Jay - and I don't blame him they have nothing in common and their morals and feelings on life in general are completely different. Aaron is witty, funny, intelligent and articulate whereas Jay is just uneducated baffoon and has got through life being spoilt and the centre of attention wherever he goes. They have absolutely nothing in common, full stop.

Jay is the type of person that has gone through life having people admire him for his popularity, his thuggish nature and his stereotical male chauvanistic ways. He's not upset with what Aaron does, but it's more to do with the fact that he just can't understand why he can't get Aaron to bow down to him and like him or put him on a pedastal like everyone else does. This is blatently obvious by Jay's continous need to discuss Aaron with his little followers (wolfpack - Aden and Anton before and now Louise, Tom and Alex) and to try and get Aaron to talk about why he ignores him or feels the need to not like him.

Deep down Jay is an extremely insecure little boy who hides behind his muscles, tattoos, aggression and his sexual exploits as a front in order to hide his real feelings. I find it quite pathetic really and Aaron sussed him out on day 1.

I completely agree with you.

[threedoggies]

Originally Posted by jet

If someone upset you, and then explained their position, apologized and extented the olive branch, would you stubbornly refuse to have anything to do with them? Especially if it was going to affect the mood and dynamics of other people?

Depends on what they had done.

However if someone in a group was ignoring me. I wouldn't get into a paddy about it and constantly bitch about them to the others in the group and threaten aggressiveness, as I know that would definitely affect the mood of the entire group. I would choose just to ignore the one person as well, thereby affecting only myself and the person concerned and not the entire group.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by jet

If someone upset you, and then explained their position, apologized and extented the olive branch, would you stubbornly refuse to have anything to do with them? Especially if it was going to affect the mood and dynamics of other people?

The someone is Jay so I'd do EXACTLY what Aaron has done (right down to saying Holy Mackerel). If someone threatens me, and tries to intimidate me then they deserve the 'Allard-Morgan special'.

[Becker]

Originally Posted by jet

If someone upset you, and then explained their position, apologized and extented the olive branch, would you stubbornly refuse to have anything to do with them? Especially if it was going to affect the mood and dynamics of other people?

A lot would depend on the situation you had been placed in the first place I suppose.

Being slagged off, have people go behind your back, called names and threatened etc on national television is bound to provoke some kind of negative defensive response wouldn't you say?

If Mr McCray is deemed to be the better person for apologising for said acts and Aaron is a terrible person for not accepting then that's your view and I respect it.

Personally I would have told McCray to go and fk himself but that's just me.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by jet

If someone upset you, and then explained their position, apologized and extented the olive branch, would you stubbornly refuse to have anything to do with them? Especially if it was going to affect the mood and dynamics of other people?

simple answer, yes

[HBB1508]

Yes I would ignore them just as Aaron is. When Faye was evicted that isolated Aaron from the couples and Jay and Loo then saw this as their opportunity to stick the knife in Aaron in an attempt to make him look bad with the whole presentgate debacle - it backfired and now they look stupid and somehow that is Aarons fault. I wouldn't be trying to mend bridges with them with only a short time to go - Aaron is speaking to the others and doing his own thing, from what I saw it was Jay creating all the bad feeling in the house with his rants, sulks and nasty insults. That's what I think anyway.

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by jet

A serious question for all Aaron fans

If someone upset you, and then explained their position, apologized and extented the olive branch, would you stubbornly refuse to have anything to do with them? Especially if it was going to affect the mood and dynamics of other people?

I'm finding this type of thread a bit tiresome, in that you're pretty much baiting Aaron fans to come on here and defend each and everyone of his actions, once again. Some will see no wrong in whatever he does, short of murder, and defend him to the hilt, others completely dislike him and therefore nothing he ever does will please them. A lot of what he says or does i dislike, but i'm not there living with him, so i really don't care. All i say is he's provided the most entertainment this series, and therefore deserves to be the winner, regardless of whether i agree or disagree with all of his morals, actions or choices.

[bananarama]

Originally Posted by jet

If someone upset you, and then explained their position, apologized and extented the olive branch, would you stubbornly refuse to have anything to do with them? Especially if it was going to affect the mood and dynamics of other people?

Aaron is behaving like he is because he knows it gets him air time......Outa the house he could well be very different.......Before entering the house he musr have had surgery to remove his horns........

[rk3388]

jay ripped aaron apart.
And all of yous would be cheering if it was the other way around

[billy123]

Originally Posted by rk3388

jay ripped aaron apart.
And all of yous would be cheering if it was the other way around

It was pretty epic and long overdue.
Good on him.

[rk3388]

Originally Posted by bobnot

It was pretty epic and long overdue.
Good on him.

lol i know, aarons face
He couldnt get a word out.
"ok.......ok....yes jay....ok"

[GabbygalEvs]

if it was someone who ****s in a freezer ruins my clothes and generally wants to kill me yes id ignore them

[sosadbbend]

Originally Posted by jet

If someone upset you, and then explained their position, apologized and extented the olive branch, would you stubbornly refuse to have anything to do with them? Especially if it was going to affect the mood and dynamics of other people?

I did briefly feel for Jay and thought why doesn't Aaron speak up. I then realised that the editing was maybe suspect on that piece of TV....

1. I can't believe Aaron only said that one word of thanks and nothing else, as a decent bloke which I am sure he is.

2. Taking into account as a marginally biased Aaron fan, if he had sat there and said just the one word in that whole conversation, it seemed to jump forward to the point in the waxing room and afterwards where Jay and him were talking and laughing, so come on BB you can' t expect us to believe its all one sided.