[Jules2]

Originally Posted by CherieB

Thats the game innit, Denise should not have been so naive, she says she has the twins sussed, and as she is increasingly on her own in there now the Cat Pack has dispersed she needed to box clever as they used to say in the olden days, the twins are as sharp as tacks, and Denise and Nicola fell right into it, having said that Nicola did try to take one of the twins into the garden to defuse the situation, but then Frankie chimed in (I like that expression) to let her speak so thats when it really kicked off. If Denise could lay off the sauce for 5 minutes she might be able to think and speak coherently, so you cant really blame the twins for taking advantage of the drunk can you..

Good post, I dont blame the twins at all it is a game and they are playing it. Thereagain so is Denise but she is working on the vibe of jealousy, this is a bad thing and it isnt doing her any good at all. She is losing her self esteem, mind you maybe she doesnt worry about that as a majority will feel sorry for her instead of seeing things as they really are. Denise has managed to turn herself into the underdog, she isnt though she imo has played the major part.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

Totally agree with you Kazanne I saw it as the twins seeing a golden opportunity to gameplay and bring down Denise and Nicola jumped swiftly on the bandwagon.

They looked upon Denise as a mother figure so why would they want to bring her down? Denise did it to herself I am afraid but it has done her good as the bookies have upped her chance of winning.

[buckfast67uk]

I'd be surprised if you were older than me Kazanne.

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[buckfast67uk]

The slightly milder twin, came out of it better than the gobby one. My guess is their career choice has led to too many unwelcome advances over the years and they get sensitive over it.

Denise was in the wrong although she did apologise. Why she went to do it again AFTER the apology is confusing.

Nicola shot herself right in the foot last night by getting involved. Her true colours were finally shown and good on Denise for bringing them out.

Frankie was useless last night. His involvement blatantly inflamed the situation, he knows fine well how the twins feel about him and his lecherous ways, in my opinion he was seeking TV time. He added nothing to the argument and was purely seeking air time.

Gareth is a disgrace. His fence sitting shenanigans were disgusting. He was asked straight up for his opinion by Nicola and refused to side. The man is a disgrace.

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[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Josy

That all comes down to choice though, if Karissa choose to bare her arse all over the internet and magazines etc then fair enough but Denise has no right to make that choice for her.

Damn right.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Made me howl after Karissa shout "Sue/lawsuit" they STILL showed it ,good on you producers for not listening to her blackmail

if that had been a bloke Chuff,can you imagine ?they would have cried rape,lol

[Tourmaline]

Originally Posted by MrWong

The ammunition for the twins came when Denise tried to justify her own behaviour by implying they shouldn't be bothered because they get their t!ts out for a living. Only an imbecile would use that reasoning.

Denise didn't use that reasoning for pulling her pants down.....she said that in response to be told that Karissa is "reserved"

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by kisywisy

we didn't see her bum because bb didn't show it. how are the twins to know what is going to be edited into the show and what camera angle they will use for the event???

BB DIDN'T show it,so what's the problem,we've seen her ass posted on here anywayit's an ass,we all have one.

[HBB1508]

Originally Posted by Jules2

They looked upon Denise as a mother figure so why would they want to bring her down? Denise did it to herself I am afraid but it has done her good as the bookies have upped her chance of winning.

IMO they looked on Denise as a mother figure for as long as it benefited them - now the end game is on they are out to bring as many down as possible so they can win, and Denise gave them all the ammunition they needed, she was in the wrong but it seems to have worked in her favour!

[buckfast67uk]

Big brother did the right thing by not showing it.

Denise paraded round topless, but it was her choice so they showed it.

The twins have chosen (whilst in the house) to hide their nudity and big brother have respected that. Denise took away that choice. In terms of decency big brother did the right thing.

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[Ellen]

Originally Posted by kazanne

BB DIDN'T show it,so what's the problem,we've seen her ass posted on here anywayit's an ass,we all have one.

Think that was the point, she didnt know what would be shown.
Yes we all have an ass, some just dont like their clothes been forcibly pulled down to show our ass off!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Think that was the point, she didnt know what would be shown.
Yes we all have an ass, some just dont like their clothes been forcibly pulled down to show our ass off!

The point is BB would have told them it hasn't been shown,you must have a better TV then me as i never saw her ass,the only place i have seen that is posted pictures on here

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Josy

That all comes down to choice though, if Karissa choose to bare her arse all over the internet and magazines etc then fair enough but Denise has no right to make that choice for her.

yes, i mean imagine pulling someones joggers down so you can briefly see her pants. OH THE SHAME

FFS


bwahahahahahahahaha


is this P5?

[kefln]

Arguments and gameplay side…

If I am to believe this thread, the OP wants to know what the problem is if a woman’s pants is pulled down in public, by someone else. That if the “victim” walks around in a bikini on occasion, then they have no right to blow things like this out of proportion...

Interesting.

Lets not forget that Denise has blown everything that Michael has said, or not said, to her out of proportion.

And, for example, had Nicola walked up behind Natalie and pulled her pants down, no matter how little, would the crowd be braying for Natalie’s or Nicola’s blood? Even if there was a huge argument where everything was blown out of proportion? I’m guessing that a move like that would have been the end of Nicola’s time in the house. Why? Because people see her as a b*tch.

Is it because we know the Twins personal history and that they have obviously been plotting, but no more than Natalie did, or Denise does, that people lack any sympathy?

Because I think that is the real question.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by kazanne

The point is BB would have told them it hasn't been shown,you must have a better TV then me as i never saw her ass,the only place i have seen that is posted pictures on here

Your quote that i replied to implied that because we all have an ass she shouldnt be that bothered about it been shown off.
Im sure BB did tell her it would not be shown but i dont think that would have stopped her worrying that it would be viewed by all & sundry.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes, i mean imagine pulling someones joggers down so you can briefly see her pants. OH THE SHAME

FFS


bwahahahahahahahaha


is this P5?

You would think it was going by your reply

[robb]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

Totally agree with you Kazanne I saw it as the twins seeing a golden opportunity to gameplay and bring down Denise and Nicola jumped swiftly on the bandwagon.

Agreed...I was really hoping the twins would be the 'good guys' after Georgia being nominated to death. They could have laughed it off, tugged denise's jumper up....ITS BB FOR GAD'S SAKE, WHAT DID THEY EXPECT? But as with the Japanese game show thing, they wanted to sue/make money/whatever. Nicola used one of her faces to side with the twins (after SLAUGHTERING THEM/NOMINATING THEM for 2 weeks while georgia was in there). The fact that denise pointed this out after nicola's 'feminist stance' was fair game. And where exactly was nicola's concern when frankie offered the twins his condom or kirk pestered georgia for 10 days??? NOWHERE TO BE SEEN....because she was in their bigger gang then. She switches sides like robbie keane switches football teams. The twins have let me (and, I suspect, Georgia) down.

[robb]

Originally Posted by Jules2

They looked upon Denise as a mother figure so why would they want to bring her down? Denise did it to herself I am afraid but it has done her good as the bookies have upped her chance of winning.

So if Michael madsen had pulled down romeo or gareth's joggers, he would be slaughtered on here in the same way I presume????

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Tourmaline

Denise didn't use that reasoning for pulling her pants down.....she said that in response to be told that Karissa is "reserved"

The fact that Denise doesn't think Karissa can be reserved in her private life contrary to who she is in her public life is rather worrying.

[dyfed]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Delayed reaction or what? in the bedroom the other day they said to Michael ,we will go in living room and wind her up(or words to that effect) they were gutted when Denise didnt take the bait, but went back to report to Michael that she hadnt ,Michael showed true colours as well last night by lying for Nicola, she had already told Denise she had not asked the others about shredding letters, then Michael jumped in and said she HAD asked ,wish tomorrow was a triple .,let the lot of them go

Absolutely right,it was a delayed reaction from the twin,thinking $$$$ or put Denise in a bad light...it may work in USA but the Brits are one step ahead of them,well most...

[dyfed]

Originally Posted by kazanne

The point is BB would have told them it hasn't been shown,you must have a better TV then me as i never saw her ass,the only place i have seen that is posted pictures on here

It must be a wide screen with tinted blue glasses......

[kefln]

Denise was extremely sly last night.

Her first reaction was “well you get your tits out for a living”, meaning she didn’t see the harm in pulling down the twins pants. But she copped on very quickly to the fact that this was the wrong way to put things. So she changed tack…

Everytime her behaviour was mentioned, she attacked Nicola. Bringing up the button, or the “lying” thing. Anything to portray herself as a victim, rather than the aggressor.

Nicola was perfectly correct, why didn’t Denise bring these things up in private? Because she needed them for ammo.
Its been shown on more than one occasion in that house, Denise is a bad drunk and she constantly plays the victim, no matter what the circumstances.

[Bojangles]

I suspect when the twin was in the diary room she was doing a deal for more money so the clip we saw last night could be shown
They are business women.

[Kazelle]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

Totally agree with you Kazanne I saw it as the twins seeing a golden opportunity to gameplay and bring down Denise and Nicola jumped swiftly on the bandwagon.

Exactly, they know what they're doing. They've made it obvious from the start that the competition is why they're there. I think in the US BB is more of a gameshow than the British public tend to think of it as.
The twins were asked to compete in a gameshow and that's exactly what they're doing, there's nothing "real" about them, they're whole lives have been living up to an image, sad really.
If Karissa really was so enraged about her backside being seen on tv then she wouldn't have let herself be seen in a bikini.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by buckfast67uk

Frankie was useless last night. His involvement blatantly inflamed the situation, he knows fine well how the twins feel about him and his lecherous ways, in my opinion he was seeking TV time. He added nothing to the argument and was purely seeking air time.

TOTALLY AGREE... cant believe people are so gullible to think he was just defending Denise and didnt have his own agenda. And more to the point, Denise didnt deserve anyone defending her.

If The Twins had done this to Natalie or if Denise had done that to Georgia would Frankie have defended them??? No I dont think so... he is a sad little boy he cant accept that there are women who see him as revolting rather than funny or cute.

And to answer someone else from another thread (which got closed)

Originally Posted by Toxic

Notice how she intentionally is putting her ass on display AND pointing it in the direction of the cameras.

Notice how SHE Is intentionally is putting her ass on display... note the CAPITALS there (hint)

Its her choice, just like a prostitute makes a choice to sell HER body, doesn't give men the right to rape her.

"Oh well judge shes a ***** so it doesn't matter that I raped her cause she sleeps with people for a living"

Your essentially condoning that behaviour. They are slightly ridiculous, the threats to BB were pure acting/drama but beheath all that Denise was out of order to do that. Would Georgia have been ok with Denise pulling down her trousers? She an underwear model so thats ok surely, would Nicola or Michael (hes done nude/semi nude scenes in films) be ok with it??

No they wouldn't so why should the twins accept it. What people are doing is formulating an opinion of the twins based on their lifestyle and then essentially saying its cool for people to treat them like trash and they have no right to complain.

So please wise one explain why its ok for an old drunken hag with serious boundary issues who waps her boobs out at the drop of a hat to pull her trousers down?

If the twins had done this to say Natalie would you be cool with that?? No of course you wouldnt cause you hate the twins... dont let your own dislike of them mean you excuse unacceptable behavior from a woman who causes trouble every time she drinks and often when she doesnt drink as well.

Forget its the twins (put them aside) do you think what denise did was ok? Do you then think it was ok for her to rip into Nicola who tried to stop the argument and bring up the letters which she told Nicola she was fine about (two faced much) Denise was to gutless to defend her own actions so she turned the whole argument onto Nicola and made her feel small and bullied... disgraceful behaviour from a 53 yr old woman imho

Gareth and the others who had their letters shredded even agreed before that timer started they would let the others have theirs (as Natalie and Nicola were there) Denise sat their and agreed to it. In the other room all the others where either complicit or agreed outright with Nicola and she forwarned all of them. The only one who took issue with it at the time was Romeo. Yet last night they all sat their and let Denise rip into Nicola about that, only Michael tried to defend her by admitting she did consult everyone, but he was very wary of making the argument worse I believe as he has issues himself with Denise.

I have no love for Nicola, shes easy to dislike, but last night she didnt do much wrong. Had Denise closed her gob for 10 seconds and had Frankie stopped fuelling the fire she would have removed Kristina into the garden and the argument would have settled down, but they were determined to continue it and bring Nicola into it as well. She kept saying it was cause it wasnt Nicolas argument but it was presumable OK that Frankie was siding with her!