[jet]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Deana wont let this drop.... she wants a reaction and she isnt going to get one. She knows the public have supported the outsiders as the insiders have all but been disposed of. She thinks the public will find her 'revenge' amusing.... but she doesnt give the public any crediblity because having had the public sympathy of being the victim to then ridicule someone and continually goad them to the point of tears makes her as bad as the rest. The impact though will be stronger...and her behaviour shows her as being a complete user.
She couldnt get the better of Conor, Becky or Caroline because they were loud spiteful people....so she became (or played) their victim. On the other hand she would have no fear putting down Sara, Luke S and Scott because she knew she was stronger.
Now those 'forceful' characters have gone she reigns supreme....she sees herself as the Head of House and is running it her way and her treatment of Luke will be her fall.

Excellent analysis.

[Marmalite]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Deana wont let this drop.... she wants a reaction and she isnt going to get one. She knows the public have supported the outsiders as the insiders have all but been disposed of. She thinks the public will find her 'revenge' amusing.... but she doesnt give the public any crediblity because having had the public sympathy of being the victim to then ridicule someone and continually goad them to the point of tears makes her as bad as the rest. The impact though will be stronger...and her behaviour shows her as being a complete user.
She couldnt get the better of Conor, Becky or Caroline because they were loud spiteful people....so she became (or played) their victim. On the other hand she would have no fear putting down Sara, Luke S and Scott because she knew she was stronger.
Now those 'forceful' characters have gone she reigns supreme....she sees herself as the Head of House and is running it her way and her treatment of Luke will be her fall.

I disagree.

I think she's way beyond doing anything for the public anymore.

Girls doing it for herself. She's been surpressed for too many weeks and can now let it all out.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Marmalite

I disagree.

I think she's way beyond doing anything for the public anymore.

Girls doing it for herself. She's been surpressed for too many weeks and can now let it all out.

She has not been supressed!!!... She argued with Arron...with Sara...she told Luke S his relationship was fake (albeit she had to own up to the accusation to his face and not by choice) she argued with shievonne etc...thats not someone being supressed.
Like I said now with the nastier characters gone she feels in control. With those spiteful characters in the house Deana looked like a saint....now with them gone she is now exposed...putting people down and taunting them. She even recognises he behaviour apologises and does it again....who does that remind you of...CAROLINE...the worst of the bunch...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

She has not been supressed!!!... She argued with Arron...with Sara...she told Luke S his relationship was fake (albeit she had to own up to the accusation to his face and not by choice) she argued with shievonne etc...thats not someone being supressed.
Like I said now with the nastier characters gone she feels in control. With those spiteful characters in the house Deana looked like a saint....now with them gone she is now exposed...putting people down and taunting them. She even recognises he behaviour apologises and does it again....who does that remind you of...CAROLINE...the worst of the bunch...

That's a good point. She's just as bad as Caroline.

[Marmalite]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

She has not been supressed!!!... She argued with Arron...with Sara...she told Luke S his relationship was fake (albeit she had to own up to the accusation to his face and not by choice) she argued with shievonne etc...thats not someone being supressed.
Like I said now with the nastier characters gone she feels in control. With those spiteful characters in the house Deana looked like a saint....now with them gone she is now exposed...putting people down and taunting them. She even recognises he behaviour apologises and does it again....who does that remind you of...CAROLINE...the worst of the bunch...

Again, I disagree.


She defended herself against Aaron who constantly singled her out during tasks. Funny how Caroline put zero effort into the same tasks, yet absolutely nothing was said to her about it isn't it.

WTF? Argued with Sara .....? How does anyone argue with Sara? She bites at people when they question or disagree with her and then she makes absolutely no sense when people try to sort things out. If you're talking about the politics issue then Deana simply asked her a question about what she had been banging on about for the last 30 minutes. Sara also has a very narrow minded view of believing others gossip over finding out the truth for herself so it's her own fault she gets into disagreements or arguments she has no chance of winning!

So what if she had to wait for Luke S to come up to her before she told him to his face his relationship was fake. EVERY single HM in there believed it was fake yet only she had the actual balls to tell him the truth. That makes her the bad person... yeah ok!

And Shievonne.... the one who lost it (completely) as soon as she heard another HM speak the truth about her and was up for eviction. You seem to have another memory problem. Shievonne attacked Deana because she believed Deana, and only Deana, was responsible for putting her up for eviction. Never mind the fact that she had to have more than one nomination or the fact that if it hadn't been for her pals Caroline, Ashleigh and Conor discussing who to nominate and therefore losing the ability to nom that week, she may not have been up anyway. But yes, let's call Deana the big bad trouble maker for defending herself when she was constantly attacked by Shievonne who again spoke the biggest lot of **** during that argument.

I will say it again. In certain ways she was surpressed. She was unable to be her real self as she was often victimised and ostracised by what was known as the "insiders".

Look as I've said many times she no saint but I do understand why she is letting lose now that she has no fear of being ganged up on by the brat pack.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Marmalite

Again, I disagree.


She defended herself against Aaron who constantly singled her out during tasks. Funny how Caroline put zero effort into the same tasks, yet absolutely nothing was said to her about it isn't it.

WTF? Argued with Sara .....? How does anyone argue with Sara? She bites at people when they question or disagree with her and then she makes absolutely no sense when people try to sort things out. If you're talking about the politics issue then Deana simply asked her a question about what she had been banging on about for the last 30 minutes. Sara also has a very narrow minded view of believing others gossip over finding out the truth for herself so it's her own fault she gets into disagreements or arguments she has no chance of winning!

So what if she had to wait for Luke S to come up to her before she told him to his face his relationship was fake. EVERY single HM in there believed it was fake yet only she had the actual balls to tell him the truth. That makes her the bad person... yeah ok!

And Shievonne.... the one who lost it (completely) as soon as she heard another HM speak the truth about her and was up for eviction. You seem to have another memory problem. Shievonne attacked Deana because she believed Deana, and only Deana, was responsible for putting her up for eviction. Never mind the fact that she had to have more than one nomination or the fact that if it hadn't been for her pals Caroline, Ashleigh and Conor discussing who to nominate and therefore losing the ability to nom that week, she may not have been up anyway. But yes, let's call Deana the big bad trouble maker for defending herself when she was constantly attacked by Shievonne who again spoke the biggest lot of **** during that argument.

I will say it again. In certain ways she was surpressed. She was unable to be her real self as she was often victimised and ostracised by what was known as the "insiders".

Look as I've said many times she no saint but I do understand why she is letting lose now that she has no fear of being ganged up on by the brat pack.

Great post.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Deana wont let this drop.... she wants a reaction and she isnt going to get one. She knows the public have supported the outsiders as the insiders have all but been disposed of. She thinks the public will find her 'revenge' amusing.... but she doesnt give the public any crediblity because having had the public sympathy of being the victim to then ridicule someone and continually goad them to the point of tears makes her as bad as the rest. The impact though will be stronger...and her behaviour shows her as being a complete user.
She couldnt get the better of Conor, Becky or Caroline because they were loud spiteful people....so she became (or played) their victim. On the other hand she would have no fear putting down Sara, Luke S and Scott because she knew she was stronger.
Now those 'forceful' characters have gone she reigns supreme....she sees herself as the Head of House and is running it her way and her treatment of Luke will be her fall.

Good Post...I think you have summed up the situation re Deana at the present time. She is trying to exact some kind of Revenge or Retribution on the remaining Insiders and thinks that it will endear her to the Public and make her character favourite to win.

But The public having invested their sympathies in Deana when she was getting a hard time in the house and are now probably a little confused as to why she thinks this current course of action is necessary. Also I think reacting to the Insiders (Luke S) now is disingenuous and fake, I mean why didn't she fight back at Conor ,Caroline and Becky a bit more instead of just sulking away in the garden. Her behaviour now is nasty and is fooling no one.

I thought she was a clever girl but now seems to be self destructing as we speak......!!!!

[InOne]

Originally Posted by PInternet

Another amazing highlights show for Deana. "Literally" has been the most entertaining housemate for the past week. Loved how they showed her explaining why she hates the song/phrase "Que Sera Sera" because people who say it sit on their ass all their lives. and just wait for something to happen. And then she says it in response to Scott's little bitching session at the end of the show. Perfect analogy for what Scott did this whole season.

Bringing out the robotic side of Luke S by joking about him having the "golden ticket" (Anyone that thinks this is bullying is out of their minds, as a golden ticket is not a bad thing and saying someone has a golden ticket is in no way teasing them. Luke S, dull as always, responds with silence. I guess Conor fans (Deana haters) would only think Deana a deserving winner if she angrily said she was going to shove the ticket up Luke S' arsehole).

Deana is the only true deserving winner in that house.

That would be all well and good if she hadn't been taunting him the night before. To say sorry and then start the whole thing up again did not look good on Deana's part. Plus she doesn't have the drunk excuse this time. It was just plain nasty.

[PInternet]

Originally Posted by InOne

That would be all well and good if she hadn't been taunting him the night before. To say sorry and then start the whole thing up again did not look good on Deana's part. Plus she doesn't have the drunk excuse this time. It was just plain nasty.

Luke S pressed the button too late, and instead of saying "fair play", guilt-tripped Conor and moaned about for the next 30 minutes only to finally leave the White Room and angrily say to Adam "What the **** are you smirking about?" After all of this transpired, Luke S began to say that he chose not to take the money on purpose and that he only pressed the button because he heard a click noise from over by Conor and that he made the moral choice, etc. Deana, seeing right through his BS, called him out on it and rightfully so. The fact that he went to cry about it in the Diary Room just shows that everything he's spewing is horse****.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by PInternet

Luke S pressed the button too late, and instead of saying "fair play", guilt-tripped Conor and moaned about for the next 30 minutes only to finally leave the White Room and angrily say to Adam "What the **** are you smirking about?" After all of this transpired, Luke S began to say that he chose not to take the money on purpose and that he only pressed the button because he heard a click noise from over by Conor and that he made the moral choice, etc. Deana, seeing right through his BS, called him out on it and rightfully so. The fact that he went to cry about it in the Diary Room just shows that everything he's spewing is horse****.

Yeah bascially dodged my whole point It was hardly "calling him out" was it.

[PInternet]

Originally Posted by InOne

Yeah bascially dodged my whole point It was hardly "calling him out" was it.

She called him out by continuously talking about the 50K to see his reaction. If he really (as he says) made the moral choice not to take the money (which is not even an option as he in fact, did press the button) then he wouldn't get so upset about the comments and would instead be proud of his 'decision'.

The Charlie and the Golden Ticket joke is just a JOKE. Charlie does not hold a negative connotation and is a well-loved famous movie character. Who wouldn't want the golden ticket to the final? Luke S, instead of joining in on joking around plays the victim. He knows exactly what he is doing.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by PInternet

She called him out by continuously talking about the 50K to see his reaction. If he really (as he says) made the moral choice not to take the money (which is not even an option as he in fact, did press the button) then he wouldn't get so upset about the comments and would instead be proud of his 'decision'.

The Charlie and the Golden Ticket joke is just a JOKE. Charlie does not hold a negative connotation and is a well-loved famous movie character. Who wouldn't want the golden ticket to the final? Luke S, instead of joining in on joking around plays the victim. He knows exactly what he is doing.

Still not really calling him out, just saying he should've pushed it faster and then laughing, saying sorry and laughing again.

The whole Golden Ticket thing is still a diss that he didn't push the button faster. It was very passive agressive. She knew it would make him uncomfortable so she kept it up. The bullied has become the bully.

[Sertius]

Originally Posted by PInternet

Deana is the only true deserving winner in that house.

Quite so. Bit who else would you possibly vote for:

Ashleigh - Foul mouthed, two-faced.
Adam - I like to sit in the garden and smoke.
Luke S - Boringly robotic
Sara - I dunno. Mmm....I'm not sure.....mmmm.....I can't think
Scott - Mmmm....now how can I be two-faced and not look it?
Luke A - I sit in the garden and smoke.

Only one answer:

Deana to win!

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Sertius

Quite so. Bit who else would you possibly vote for:

Ashleigh - Foul mouthed, two-faced.
Adam - I like to sit in the garden and smoke.
Luke S - Boringly robotic
Sara - I dunno. Mmm....I'm not sure.....mmmm.....I can't think
Scott - Mmmm....now how can I be two-faced and not look it?
Luke A - I sit in the garden and smoke.

Only one answer:

Deana to win!

Disagree

Ashleigh - two faced/lazy/stupid/common/bitchy
Adam - decent/loyal/perseptive/honest
Luke S - shallow/vain/self-centred
Sara - Fickle/niave/dull
Scott - Witty/bitchy/lazy/fence-sitter
Luke A - decent/loyal/perseptive/honest
Deana - hypocrite/player/annoying

Adam or Luke A to win...

[ransom]

Deana is marching straight to victory. The haters are just mad because their favorite housemate will not get the better of her. That's why they constantly come on here to whine about her and make things up. They are just trying to persuade some of her voters to drop her and vote for their housemate instead.

Won't work though, Deana has too much support. The only person in there who truly deserves to win, bar Luke A possibly.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by ransom

Deana is marching straight to victory. The haters are just mad because their favorite housemate will not get the better of her. That's why they constantly come on here to whine about her and make things up. They are just trying to persuade some of her voters to drop her and vote for their housemate instead.

Won't work though, Deana has too much support. The only person in there who truly deserves to win, bar Luke A possibly.

Yep! So far we've had..
Deana has the same manager as Shilpa
Deana's a gang member and that's why she was expelled.
Deana was expelled from 4 different schools.
Deana's losing alot of support.

All this with not one jot of proof. Just a load of bitter hot air.

[Marcus.]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Yep! So far we've had..
Deana has the same manager as Shilpa
Deana's a gang member and that's why she was expelled.
Deana was expelled from 4 different schools.
Deana's losing alot of support.

All this with not one jot of proof. Just a load of bitter hot air.

well she added one me

oh and i know i an bit late but yeah 5,000 comments go me

[rusticgal]

Well guess we will have to agree to dis-agree... I also get fed up with people saying 'at least she tells people what she thinks' and full of praise for her telling Luke S to his face about his relationship with Ashleigh.... in fact Deana was overheard telling someone it was fake and so he confronted her and she could not deny it....thats 'being caught out' she would never have told him otherwise (until maybe now).
There have been a few that have told people a few home truths....Adam, Luke A, Lauren.... However Luke A and Adam have sympathised with his feelings even though they dont particularly like him... decent respectful people... Deana has not shown any respect...thus showing the very traits she has condemned in the others.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Well guess we will have to agree to dis-agree... I also get fed up with people saying 'at least she tells people what she thinks' and full of praise for her telling Luke S to his face about his relationship with Ashleigh.... in fact Deana was overheard telling someone it was fake and so he confronted her and she could not deny it....thats 'being caught out' she would never have told him otherwise (until maybe now).
There have been a few that have told people a few home truths....Adam, Luke A, Lauren.... However Luke A and Adam have sympathised with his feelings even though they dont particularly like him... decent respectful people... Deana has not shown any respect...thus showing the very traits she has condemned in the others.

Exactly. How is she better than them? She acts in the same way!

[glasstangerine]

Hey remember when Deana committed the heinous crime of not liking spam and tobasco sauce baked into a cake, and was accused of losing a task which the housemates DIDNT LOSE?? For a full day a large group of people loudly said horrible things about her and got their mob mentality on. A large group including a lot of muscly alpha males. It was so heated that even though Deana didn't know this, someone made a long rant threatening graphic violence to a few people and they laughed? I can't imagine anyone I spend time with saying something like that to anyone else without the other person calling them out but it was so heated it was considered normal.

She was in a house of people that hated her and she didn't let it concern her at all. The most she did was roll her eyes and say they should grow up. Have you ever been trapped with a large group of people that do nothing but talk about how horrible you are? I have. Not a lot of people can handle that without crumbling, I assure you.

These people then wonder why she gets saved and decide it's because she is playing the victim.

Then the roles are switched and Luke is no longer in his comfy protected position in the group. Deana has the nerve to compare him to Charley and the Chocolate factory... a comparison which ISNT NEGATIVE and ACTUALLY APPLIES TO HIS SITUATION! He pouts and looks pained, says he's going to nominate her and storms off.


WHO IS PLAYING THE VICTIM?!

She is hardly doing anything to him. He's just use to being safe, protected, coddled and treated special because he was in a pack of mean nasty people.

If people have such a short memory or such a dim understanding of human nature that they don't know why Deana isn't Luke S's best friend, then sod them. Like I said a few weeks ago, she could lose a third of her followers but unless they went directly to the #2 person, she will still end up winning.

[halfacrown]

I agree with the OP and people should remember when Deana told Luke S to his face that his relationship with Ashleigh was fake. That was far more plucky and assertive than anything she's said in the last few days. All this 'Deana's changed' rubbish has come from BOTS (how predictable) and Conor fans who are desperate after he walked.

[glasstangerine]

PInternet it really annoys me when you make points I can't refute.

[cell]

After the way Luke S tried to call Deana up about wanting the money, then she saw him go for the 50k and miss, she is going to rub it in. If he didn't move his hand for it the reaction would have been different in the house. She has talked about it a few times in the last few days and it will always make it to the highlights, so it amplifies the situation through highlights.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by cell

After the way Luke S tried to call Deana up about wanting the money, then she saw him go for the 50k and miss, she is going to rub it in. If he didn't move his hand for it the reaction would have been different in the house. She has talked about it a few times in the last few days and it will always make it to the highlights, so it amplifies the situation through highlights.

But the joke was only funny the first time. She said sorry to him, then carried on talking about it.

[cell]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But the joke was only funny the first time. She said sorry to him, then carried on talking about it.

Well she actually switched to the golden ticket thing, which is the same theme but still funny. She is being entertaining and cringe worthy, there has not nearly been enough cringe worthy moments this season. The good characters all left early and we were left with constant bitching, I would rather have a few HM's riling the others up then more boring stasis.