[Ramsay]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Im pretty sure this is the death of civilian BB no matter what people say about the contract being renewed blah blah blah.

We have not seen the contract where it states that in order to run CBB they need to air the civilian series aswell.

The celebrity version however is a massive hit with CBB11 launch getting 3.83 million and the finale getting 3.61 million (almost 2 million more than the finale of BB13).

I don't want BB to get the axe but I don't enjoy watching it die a slow death either.

Hopefully this series will build and become a relative success but I cant see it happening.

Even if it does get somewhat higher ratings, they wouldnt dare ditch BB because they know the hardcore fanbase would go crazy

[Sun Tzu.]

The stigma doesn't help either. Most people who watch it, will not tell their family members they watch it. So you are talking about people in their room watching it on the TV or a stream online.

Simply because its the sort of TV they don't want to watch with their family. Its different with CBB because that is celebrities.

[Novo]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

BB is not a cheap programme to run.

They have to employ ALOT of staff to run the show and I believe last year they just about broke even on the civilian series when it came to profit.

It takes a lot of man hours to staff a show that runs every single day for 10 weeks.

Channel 5 admitted that BB had underperformed and that was with the launch' getting 2.7 and 2.9 million so the fact this only got 2.2 is not good.

where did you hear that?

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Karl

Even if it does get somewhat higher ratings, they wouldnt dare ditch BB because they know the hardcore fanbase would go crazy

Also BB is C5 golden show

[Bluerang1]

Oh that's upsetting. If it's not bringing them money then they should.

[Rob!]

Just so we're clear then:

Big Brother is apparently one of Channel 5's most successful shows. The Celeb series especially pulls in some decent figures for the channel.

But...it also doesn't make them quite as much money as they predicted it would.

Which is going to be the decider?

[ruiphillips]

Yes. They probably won't renew the contract for another BB for 2015. But, could continue with the CBB.

[Marsh.]

I said I wouldn't mind CBB running beyond 2010 because it still had life in it. It was short and sweet, didn't run too long. And it still attracts some decent names judging by the last few but putting it on twice a year and bringing back the main show only killed it further. It needed a good long rest.

If they'd have stuck to just one CBB for 4 weeks each Jan I reckon they could've got Davina on board too. lol. The big commitment to 3 series a year on a crappy channel like 5 probably scared her off.

[lostalex]

They can't axe it in the middle of a season can they? I know they did it on the Arabian Big Brother, but i really don't think they would ever do that to BBUK.

[ruiphillips]

Originally Posted by lostalex

They can't axe it in the middle of a season can they? I know they did it on the Arabian Big Brother, but i really don't think they would ever do that to BBUK.

If they were dead set on cancelling the show, they would have to play out BB15 in 2014 and then not renew their contract with Endemol. Just like Channel 4 did when they announced during BB10 that they wouldn't be renewing their contract and the final series in the 3-year deal they signed in 2007 would serve as the last for the network.

[Dash Darington]

We'll have to wait and see what the average ratings are over the series. The renewal decision will also have a lot to do with the 2014 ratings.

From what everyone has said, they didn't advertise the launch very much. They can't be surprised by the low ratings so far. Maybe they gambled that they could save money on advertising and retain the hardcore audience throughout the season anyway.

[M X]

No I don't think so, the ratings are still pretty high for a C5 show.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Novo

where did you hear that?

Jeff Ford said in an interview and admitted Channel 5 weren't happy with the ratings.

Google it.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by lostalex

They can't axe it in the middle of a season can they? I know they did it on the Arabian Big Brother, but i really don't think they would ever do that to BBUK.

I don't think so.

I would be devastated.

The Arab thing was totally different though it was due to religious beliefs etc ZzZzZzz

[ThisIsNickkk]

The thing you have to look at is, if the show was still on Channel 4 these ratings would be TV suicide, however, the difference with Channel 5 is the ratings are well above the slot average for their shows.

I have a feeling ratings will keep steady or may even rise slightly over the new few days, but the ratings aren't good in the sense that they're the lowest they have ever been for a launch.

BUT upon saying that, it's not as though people have just zoned out and don't want to watch. Channel 5 brought this on themselves due to the lack of advertising. If they did more high profile advertising, I have absolutely no doubt that the show would have done better on Thursday and Friday.

So the show isn't ready for the Channel 5 waste bin just yet, Channel 5 brought a lot of it on themselves, which I why I have faith the figures will grow slightly.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

The thing is this series aswell its got ALOT of press attention for some reason.

Even though ratings so far are down all major online newspapers are reporting on it extensively and its in the most read articles on every site.

Its press for Channel 5 at the end of the day which im sure they are happy with.

[JohnnyBB]

hopefully if endemol want big brother to go for 50 years they best cheapen the next contract, if C5 get a good deal, they might renew look everyones talking about channel 5 now its not just a ****ty channel anymore.

[ThisIsNickkk]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBB

hopefully if endemol want big brother to go for 50 years they best cheapen the next contract, if C5 get a good deal, they might renew look everyones talking about channel 5 now its not just a ****ty channel anymore.

People might be talking about Channel 5, but how many people go back and watch shows on C5?

To be fair, I watch Channel 5 for Big Brother related programming and that's it, the channel gets switched as soon as it has finished... I can't say any of C5's programming interests me that much either.

So people may be talking about it, but how much has its overall audience increased (I actually don't know the figures) and how many people tune in for BB and that's that?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by ThisIsNickkk

People might be talking about Channel 5, but how many people go back and watch shows on C5?

To be fair, I watch Channel 5 for Big Brother related programming and that's it, the channel gets switched as soon as it has finished... I can't say any of C5's programming interests me that much either.

So people may be talking about it, but how much has its overall audience increased (I actually don't know the figures) and how many people tune in for BB and that's that?

BB hasn't seemed to have made a massive impact share wise by the looks of it.

[Gusto Brunt]

It really irritates me when the fabulous Big Brother is always talked about as a dated failure.

And yet that pile of junk on ITV1, I'm A Celebrity, is the biggest heap of trash on TV today. Without Ant and Dec and its prime time ITV1 slot, that show would die a death on any other channel.

Big Brother is far more superior and interesting. It should never die.

[cheeky_monkey]

Originally Posted by Loukas

No, not yet. I just think they should advertise the show alot more, the ratings were down to the lack of advertising imo

I agree!

Last year I seen BB posters near a radio station, near bus stops in town near a shopping centre and across the road from a bus stop and next to the dentist near where I live!

I've not seen one poster of BB for this series!

They also let ITV and Channel 4 show a clip of when BB was starting last time but not this year!

They would of had high ratings if they put posters everywhere and adverts of BB on ITV and Channel 4!

Some people have said they didn't know BB was starting!

[Jemal]

I saw on telly mix that the producers want it to go on for 50 years. The ambition is there but everything else isn't.