[Kizzy]

''The same is true for race or sexual orientation.''


I don't believe it's right for race or sexual orientation too though, that to me is a whole new ball game than just some general mockery of an individual.

[Jamesy]

I think it depends on who you are aiming the 'shock' humour towards. Most comedians get away with it because that is their humour, and the people viewing them will already be aware of the extents their humour goes to. So no one gets offended as such.

I used shock/dark/sarcastic humour a lot. Although I limit it depending who I'm around. I know with my closest friend I can easily tread into dark grounds with my humour, as we both share the same type of humour. But with other friends I wouldn't dare use the same humour as I know I will easily offend them.

People like to joke about their own 'groups' though. I had work experience last week with the NHS and a patient who was Chinese was told to "open your eyes wide for me please" and he replied with "I can't, I'm Chinese". I didn't know whether to laugh or not. :P

[Tom4784]

I hate people that take offense to comedy, like seriously, rethink your priorities in life. I find Frankie Boyle to be a repetitive bore but I typically love jet black humour. No jokes will ever offend me because I think it's just a waste of energy to get upset over something so unimportant.

[lostalex]

I don't mind racist humor.

I don't like homophobic humor though.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I don't mind racist humor.

I don't like homophobic humor though.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Alex. I will remind you that you said this next time someone says something slightly negative about the USA and you have a full-on, diva-style breakdown.

[Apple202]

Originally Posted by Livia

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Alex. I will remind you that you said this next time someone says something slightly negative about the USA and you have a full-on, diva-style breakdown.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Alex. I will remind you that you said this next time someone says something slightly negative about the USA and you have a full-on, diva-style breakdown.

I think it applies to my feeling about people criticizing the USA though Livia. What i've been saying in this thread is that when it applies to you, you get offended. When i said, if someone jokes about your family, you take it personally, even if you make the same jokes TO your family. It's not the same.

I am one of the most critical people of US foreign policy and of America when i am talking to other Americans. But when I am on a British website obviously I don't like hearing British people criticize the US. That was my whole point.

Just like if hear straight people criticizing gay people, I will be more sensitive than when i hear gay people criticizing gay people.

That was my whole point Livia. that's why I was making the point, it's okay for you to make fun of your own family, but it's not nice when you hear someone else make fun of your family.

I feel like you haven't listened to anything that i've said in this thread.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I think it applies to my feeling about people criticizing the USA though Livia. What i've been saying in this thread is that when it applies to you, you get offended. When i said, if someone jokes about your family, you take it personally, even if you make the same jokes TO your family. It's not the same.

I am one of the most critical people of US foreign policy and of America when i am talking to other Americans. But when I am on a British website obviously I don't like hearing other people criticize the US. That was my whole point.

Just like if hear straight people criticizing gay people, I will be more sensitive than when i hear gay people criticizing gay people.

That was my whole point Livia. that's why I was making the point, it's okay for you to make fun of your own family, but it's not nice when you hear someone else make fun of your family.

I feel like you haven't listened to anything that i've said in this thread.

I have listened Alex. You said, and I quote:

"I don't mind racist humor.

I don't like homophobic humor though."

You freak out when someone talks negatively about the US. I understand that, you're American... but you can't then claim to be okay with racist humour! Now stop getting so wound up, you daft Yank x

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

I have listened Alex. You said, and I quote:

"I don't mind racist humor.

I don't like homophobic humor though."

You freak out when someone talks negatively about the US. I understand that, you're American... but you can't then claim to be okay with racist humour! Now stop getting so wound up, you daft Yank x

That was obviously meant to point out the hypocrisy that we ALL have Livia.

Obviously I was making a joke, that it's silly that i'm more offended by homophobic humor, (because i'm gay) and i'm not really offended by racist humor (because i'm perceived as white)

You didn't get the irony.

But it's true, i can easy laugh off and ignore racist humor because it doesn't directly offend me, but i can get irate and angry about homophobic jokes, because it feels like a personal attack.

I obviously understand the hypocrisy there, and i was pointing it out because we ALL have that kind of hypocrisy. We ALL get more offended when it's something that affects us personally.

[Roy Mars III]

yes nothing should be off limits

[lostalex]

I think you're still annoyed that i pointed out that the holocaust doesn't just belong to jews, and actually jews have not done a good job of educating people about the horrors done to homosexuals and disabled people, and in fact in some ways have hijacked the holocaust to make it seem like it was ONLY about jews.

More people need to be educated about the full spectrum of the horrors of the holocaust, cause it wasn't just about jews. Homosexuals were just as terrorized and suffered just as much discrimination as jews during the holocaust and they deserve equal acknowledgement and remembrance.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I think you're still annoyed that i pointed out that the holocaust doesn't just belong to jews, and actually jews have not done a good job of educating people about the horrors done to homosexuals and disabled people, and in fact in some ways have hijacked the holocaust to make it seem like it was ONLY about jews.

Really? jews have hijacked the holocaust. Are you ****ing serious?

Between 5-15,000 gay men were imprisoned. Over a million Jewish Children died. I'm so very sorry you don't get a big enough mention.

I'm leaving this thread now Alex.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

Really? jews have hijacked the holocaust. Are you ****ing serious?

I'm leaving this thread now Alex.

let me ask you a question before you go... Do you think that the public is as aware that homosexuals and disabled people were just as persecuted as jews during the holocaust?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

let me ask you a question before you go... Do you think that the public is as aware that homosexuals and disabled people were just as persecuted as jews during the holocaust?

Yes, I think the public is very much aware than not only Jews were persecuted in the Holocaust. The Jews themselves give special mention to it on Holocaust Rememberance day. I know how many people died...

6 million Jews,
2 million non-Jewish Poles,
500,000 Roma Gypsies
200,000 disabled people
15,000 homosexual men
2,000 Jehovah's Witnesses


I found your comment that the Holocaust has been been "hijacked by the Jews" distasteful and disrespectful.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

Really? jews have hijacked the holocaust. Are you ****ing serious?

Between 5-15,000 gay men were imprisoned. Over a million Jewish Children died. I'm so very sorry you don't get a big enough mention.

I'm leaving this thread now Alex.

ohh, ONLY 15 THOUSAND gay men???

oh my bad. I didn't realize that it was ONLY 15 thousand gay men.

Stupid me. 15 thousand, well that's hardly anything at all, I guess it's silly to even mention such a small number as 15 thousand.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

ohh, ONLY 15 THOUSAND gay men???

oh my bad. I didn't realize that it was ONLY 15 thousand gay men.

Stupid me. 15 thousand, well that's hardly anything at all, I guess it's silly to even mention such a small number as 15 thousand.

Never once did I say that it was an insignificant number.


And back on ignore you go.

[lostalex]

livia with the meaningless threats. 10 minutes ago she said she was done with me and done with this thread, ohh, look she BACK!, and now she's done with me again.

Livia's imaginary ignore list.

She's perfectly happy when i'm criticizing MUSLIMS... isn't she? but the minute I criticize JEWS, i'm back on the fake ignore list.

Grow up Livia.