[joeysteele]

Well they cannot have it all ways, under current rules according to what this Govt has brought in as additional to what Labour did up to 2010.

Anyone unemployed on jobseekers, has to regularly go to the jobcentre, has to prove they are actively looking for work, with the jobcentre having the option of checking the info out too.
If they cannot get a job then having to do some further education means they will have far less time to fulfil the things above as to actively looking for work.

If they go into some education again, then surely that will add to the Govts welfare bill, with at least part or all the costs of the courses having to be met.
Also if unemployed there must also surely be the likelihood of claiming of some or all exepenses.

Get the jobs created, then penalise people who will not take a job, stop companies reducing workers hours by 1 or 2 a week to pay less but keeping them in work.
Create real jobs, full time jobs, not part time jobs as is the case now.
That is the duty of Govt, then when you have the list of vacancies far more in proportion to those unemployed,then you can start to dicate like this. not before.

[arista]

"Create real jobs, full time jobs, not part time jobs as is the case now.
That is the duty of Govt,"


Yes when possible Labour or Conservative will.


Best to start their own Company
And Stick at it.


But the fecking Slackers
they are Bad for the British Tax payers

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

"Create real jobs, full time jobs, not part time jobs as is the case now.
That is the duty of Govt,"


Yes when possible Labour or Conservative will.


Best to start their own Company
And Stick at it.


But the fecking Slackers
they are Bad for the British Tax payers

By the same token, those who are seeking work will then likely be in work if a Govt gets that part of the problem sorted.

Only then after that is sorted, then penalise and dictate to those who remain out of work despite 'full time' positions being available.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

By the same token, those who are seeking work will then likely be in work if a Govt gets that part of the problem sorted.

Only then after that is sorted, then penalise and dictate to those who remain out of work despite 'full time' positions being available.

Joey the Young ask for too much.
They never fought in our Wars or Nothing


Full time was in the better years
You have to be High Up for that
So climb the Ladders

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Joey the Young ask for too much.
They never fought in our Wars or Nothing


Full time was in the better years
You have to be High Up for that
So climb the Ladders

That's a good point arista but full time jobs have to be the standard for dealing with the welfare system and so many on it.

Part time jobs do not alter that to a great degree, allowing more and more part time jobs means more and more people will still need to claim benefits, if they stop the benefits or part of them for those in part time work then you create even more problems.

The question is for any Govt, how do they really get people off benefits and into work,those who really are able to work anyway.
Create and encourage business to create 'full time' jobs,not part time ones.
That is the main start.
Then you can guide people into those full time jobs, however no one who is unemployed should be being penalised when you have such an unemployment figure as we have now and something like at best only a third of vacancies to the number that are unemployed.

If this Govt, spent as much time looking at creating the environment for the full time jobs needed and stopped attacking people for not being able to get a job because there are none to get.
Maybe then they would find they would have more success rather than just waiting for companies to come up with temporary jobs or reduce the hours of workers alrwady employed to take on something like 5 more people likely at best, which has happened at my local supermarket.

The staff there have apparantly had 2 hours taken off their working week, 3 new staff have been taken on since that was done.
Leaving 3 people better off but all that workforce at least now £18 worse off every week.
This Govt is not creating real jobs, they are seeing an increase on a scale never seen before in part time jobs,part time jobs that hardly benefits anyone at all.

I am grateful I am fortunate to still be able to choose my career and have some security but I do know of so many people, even those who have been to Uni who really are struggling and nothing this Govt is doing is any help at all, in fact this Govt is more of a hindrance to success.
All it can do is hammer those unemployed and on benefits and really the blame doesn't lie with those people it lies with govt; (and in particular this Govt's), inadequate policies.

David Cameron was on about a land of opportunity as to the UK in his speech, well from all I have observed, there seemed to far more opportunity over the previous 10 years of Govt. than there has been during this last 3+ years of this Govt.
This lot have stifled opportunity not nurtured it,in my opinion.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

Best to start their own Company
And Stick at it.

Ahh yes I've heard this ridiculous suggestion before. Starting a company costs money. A lot of money. What are jobseekers supposed to start a company with; loose change and dust?

[smeagol]

another plan by cameron to kill of the poor and the future of the country and fill his rich mates pockets , does it not realize most people dont have rich parents and memories of skiing in the alps .
spend billions on war and giving money to other countries then to get it back attack the poor in your own country. the guy is demented.

benefits are crucial as a hand up ,thousans of people dont have families to support them lots of people struggle on their own. take away help will just increase the suicide numbers in that age group.